Has this been posted and I missed it? It looks easy and is highly recommended by fishermen
I respect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDokeGDkAt8&feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDokeGDkAt8&feature=share)
Lee,
Do you know what range of line that knot can tied with...I mean from the people you know that use it??
I like the whole series of knots he tied that day and put on YouTube. All simple and effective.
Brett
100 and up.
Lee,
Yep.....think I'll just stick with the San Diego jam, and Palomar for my fishing. Simple to tie, so can cut an re-tie easily ;D
Brett
I use the SD most of the time.
This looks good,,,thanks
I need to chime in. The knot can be tied in ANY size line. This is a advantage to all that use line over 60lb test. The San Diego, Palomar, and my good friend Joe Miller's knot do not tie well over 60 lb. There are some that use it in lieu of crimping. Because of it's small profile it is gaining popularity with fly fisherman. There was someone that got the name wrong on (I think the Royal Polaris) and the name is still floating around. The name is the "Spangler Knot" you will not find any mention of "Springer" until I brought it to light in my posts on "Bloody Decks". The knot is also published in Jeff Buorroughs book, "For the love of long range fishing San Diego style". I hope you find it of value to you all.
I'll have to try that one. I use a paiomar on lighter line and a double san diego over 60lb.
Is the knot John ties In The video different than the one in jeffs book ? It looks like John doesn't create the third loop or go through it with the tag end steps 3&4 in the link
https://internal.bdoutdoors.com/2014/05/1056307_b96971677e6227388006869782475467.pdf
I decided to crimp/double swage my swivels w/100&130lb mono mainline.
This knot may be a good alternative for my mid-sized (80-150lb) live bait bridle hook-leader connection. I had been using a Uni Knot or Double Uni.
My favorite knot for lighter line trolling has always been
"The Darby Knot"... I call it "The Bermuda Knot"...
http://www.panchdara.com/Panchdara/Darby.htm
I use a Bimini Twistfor leader to mainline connection.
I use an FG Chain for spectra to heavy mono topshot.
I like the "Fishermen's Knot"or "Trilene Knot"or tieing nonsnelled light hooks/light lines.
When live baiting or chunking with 40-60lb mono for bigger fish on non-ringed hooks I like the "3 Turn Albright"cause it forms a loop.
For same sized (especially with heavier) mono connections I use the "Blood knot".
The only other one I use (other then snelling, and rigging dropper loops), is the "Improved Albright" for connecting double lines.
As I said my greatest go-to confidence knot..for when things get serious, is the "Bermuda knot".
Spangler and 4 turn uni in 80#. You need to be careful with the Spangler to not have the loops cross. If it clinches tight I think you have it right. A uni you can tie with your eyes closed on a pitching deck on the way to Guadalupe. The Spangler is smaller but not that much smaller.
A much larger knot but one that anyone can tie and works well with very heavy mono is the AG Chain knot. Also if anyone can find a mono knot that beats it in a back-to-back strength battle I will be surprised, it's crazy strong.
The knot John is tying is discussed in the posts on Bloody decks, under my original post "New Knot". It is two wraps in lieu of a overhand knot around the original loops. It has a flaw as as the knot cycles (pensioned and relaxed it can unravel) and is more likely to fail.
If you are tying the Spangler correctly it is not prone to the loops crossing. The three turn version is a little trickier, and I use it only in big stuff that is easy to work with. The Palomar is a good example of a knot that tends to cross. This is why the Spangler is consistent, and especially in small stuff that you can't really see without magnification. If you google it Jeffs PDF file will pop up. It is easy to follow. One thing I have learned and was also told by Joe Miller (Miller Knot) is that is hard for for people to change to something new. Have fun with it, and use what you like.
Thanks gonna have to practice on that one
Been running my line 3 times in the hook eye it has made a big difference with 8lb test,,,,thanks for your help ;D keta
Good info; I usually use a Palomar in the lighter lines I most frequently have spooled; sometimes a Double Uni, but that's a little harder for me than the Palomar, unless I'm tying something on where I can't easily get the loop of the Palomar over it (like a big jig). I've noticed that the Palomar occasionally seems to break as I test it after tying & I see where someone mentions about the loops crossing--maybe that's what is happening to me.
I think I'll give some consideration to this new knot, as it does seem easy to tie, which is a big plus to me.
Frank
Back in early November, I used the Springer as tied by JC in the video and caught a 298.8# and a 321# YFT the first time I tried it. It's that easy!
I was using 130# Seaguar Premier Fluoro to a Mustad 6/0 4x circle hook.
Looks about as simple as you can get. I like it.
The Springer that landed my Super Cow. I like it because it goes through the eye twice, is small and very easy to tie. Try a few and see for yourself!
Good info guys,
I am tying leaders for muskie/pike/sturgeon in St Clairs for next year with heavy line, I love the Springer knot, simple and effective. I think this will be my go to knot for leaders now
Danke!
I just made the knot on some 0.55mm mono, is easy to tie and seems very strong.
Wonder if it will work on braid?
Quote from: Cor on December 14, 2017, 06:17:50 PM
I just made the knot on some 0.55mm mono, is easy to tie and seems very strong.
Wonder if it will work on braid?
I'm yet to find a knot that consistently retains a significant amount of strength when tieing braid directly to terminal tackle. My current doctrine is that braid should never be tied to anything except a mono/fluoro leader, due to the tiny diameter it's very good at cutting into itself.
Quote from: boon on December 14, 2017, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: Cor on December 14, 2017, 06:17:50 PM
I just made the knot on some 0.55mm mono, is easy to tie and seems very strong.
Wonder if it will work on braid?
I'm yet to find a knot that consistently retains a significant amount of strength when tieing braid directly to terminal tackle. My current doctrine is that braid should never be tied to anything except a mono/fluoro leader, due to the tiny diameter it's very good at cutting into itself.
I am a fairly lazy fisherman when it comes to tying leaders and have for quite some time been tying my braid directly to my terminal tackle without any adverse results. I do use 80lb where 50lb should suffice.
I wouldn't use a Springer with braid. It'd probably pull out. I'd want something with s lot more turns.
A little off topic, but has anyone ever tried or heard anything good/bad about the "Herter Knot? Looks like it could work like a snell, but Geo. Herter was a good salesman above all else & I just wonder about this knot.
Frank
I've been playing with this Springer knot for some time now I will be testing against the Palomar. I'm liking the Springer knot. It meets 2 requirements easy to tie & strong... Jeff
You all are a funny lot..The creator of the knot posted several times on this thread and called it the Spangler knot after his name Dave Spangler, but you all still insisted on calling it the Springer knot. Go figure.
Joe Collins called it a Springer Knot in his video, the OP in this thread, and I will continue to call it that.
The Spangler is a little different. I think the Springer is JC trying to tie a Spangler and getting it wrong!
The Spangler I believe is more versatile. Works better on liter line. Going 3 times through the eye seems to give better shock resistance... Jeff
Ok, now you got me interested, Butt show us the Spangler Knot. Is it just a variatiation of the other on Lee posted a video of?
Lots of lighter lines can benefit of more wraps for chafe or anti.slip insurance. Maybe some can chime in nicely?
This is not a court of law here, ??? just a sharing site. ;) Thanks.
They are not the same knot.
Here ya go,
https://internal.bdoutdoors.com/2014/05/1056307_b96971677e6227388006869782475467.pdf (https://internal.bdoutdoors.com/2014/05/1056307_b96971677e6227388006869782475467.pdf)