I had avet mxl for like 2 years and it feels so smooth compared to my newer avet what you guys think?
Sounds like there may be an issue with your new reel...
My oldest SX (3 yrs. old) has a smoother/ looser feel than my newer reels.
The newer reels feel just a tad bit tighter.
It's a jx raptor have it set 13.2 at strike it feels really smooth in low gear but in high its not very smooth
Probably unlikely in your case, but if the line-lay is uneven anywhere in the spool, it can produce a vibration reeling in high gear that can be mistaken as gear or bearing noise. Does it feel the same in high gear no matter how slowly you turn the handle?
Chad
I think it's the opposite......
I think the pinon bearing goes bad eventually and the handle gets hard to turn.
Did you take the new one apart at all?
What are the gear ratios? A higher gear ratio will require more force to turn the handle. If the MX has a much lower ratio it might make a difference.
It feels a bit rough in the beginning but after I start reeling in faster it feels a lot smoother
Quote from: Wicho5981 on February 14, 2016, 05:52:44 AM
It feels a bit rough in the beginning but after I start reeling in faster it feels a lot smoother
You buy it new or used?
Mxl 5:8:1 jx is 6 in high and 3 in low
New jx raptor
Those gear ratios are pretty similar that's probably not it.
Does it feel rough or does it just feel harder to turn?
Some of the older ones had different, softer gears inside. These are probably stainless which could feel a bit "rougher" if they are different. Do you know what type of gears the old one has?
A bit harder to turn
Quote from: Wicho5981 on February 14, 2016, 05:52:44 AM
It feels a bit rough in the beginning but after I start reeling in faster it feels a lot smoother
Looks like you can rule out an unbalanced spool as cause for the reel not feeling smooth in high gear. Also unlikely that a damaged pinion bearing will feel smooth in low gear, but rough in high; it would feel rough and difficult to turn no matter what gear your in.
Might want to examine the high speed gear set if you're comfortable taking the reel apart--type of gears, any damage, etc.
Otherwise try contacting Avet. In my experience they are very helpful when it comes to any issue involving their reels.
Chad
Only thing that can think of is that the drag got pushed up high and the pinon bearings was damaged.
In general, I've noticed those reels become significantly harder to turn as you ramp up the drag on them. Just the way they are.
Maybe try setting the drags at 8lbs on each and compare.
They feel about the same at that drag setting but I may of damaged the pinion bearing. When I received it I was playing with it and buttoned down the drag and I heard a little pop.
Quote from: Wicho5981 on February 14, 2016, 06:36:53 AM
They feel about the same at that drag setting but I may of damaged the pinion bearing. When I received it I was playing with it and buttoned down the drag and I heard a little pop.
Hard to say if you damaged anything. Might have been something shifting with the lever/drag cam that made a pop.
I've replaced a lot of Avet pinon bearings. A damaged one can be subtle. As in you can turn it with your fingers and it feels fine. Once you put pressure on it, it feels bad. A lot of them that have been used are clearly damaged though. Think coffee grinder or really hard to turn.
With a brand new bearing installed, they require a bit of effort to turn at higher drags. I'm always conservative with the drag on Avets because of this.
The bearing might be fine, that reel puts out more drag so the handle being harder to turn seems like it could be normal.
No coffee grinder or really hard to turn .the resistance in handle is subtle when at higher drag so it may be normal.
Wicho, are you sure it's not just the difference between brand new stainless gears and gears that have been broken in?
Mike
It may be but I don't have many experience with stainless steel gears hopefully thats the problem.
To some degree yes, but that depends on the usage and how it's maintained. If you're like me and don't have a lot of reels, I use the crap out of what I have, in tough conditions (surf,rocks) so I take them completely apart a couple times a year or they wouldn't be too smooth. If it's a reel that gets used periodically from a boat and kept clean, the bearings and gears will smooth out over time. The physics of metal against metal sometimes polishing itself and grease breaking down to a light film over time.
At least that's how my Avets behaved.
I had an early Raptor that did the same thing. Finally traced it to a high spot in one of the gears. I sanded it down and everything is fine now. Taking apart the gear train is a PITA. If this is a new reel consider exchanging it for a different reel.
The roughness might have gone away with use but...?? Good luck.
Quote from: Wicho5981 on February 14, 2016, 06:36:53 AM
They feel about the same at that drag setting but I may of damaged the pinion bearing. When I received it I was playing with it and buttoned down the drag and I heard a little pop.
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Hi,
I have and SX and an SXJ. Bought them both new. The SX is slightly rougher to turn but has twice as much gear noise than the SXJ. It was like that straight out of the box. I've read this in other forums about the SX. The reels are both well maintained and never have the drag pushed very high.
Bill.
Most of the noise will go away over time
I've got my hands on two SXJs, an SX, and an MXL. The ones fished less are noisier, the ones fished more quieter. Close enough for jazz.
Mike