I double dogged my 12/0. This is the first time I perform this. I installed the spring I believe a bit differently. The spring is half secured by the bridge plate and in my opinion it does seem like there wont be an issue. Wanted second opinions.
Thanks in advance
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Looks like you removed too much material on the top. Shouldn't matter.
You need to get it all together to make sure it functions well.
I don't see any reason it wouldn't.
Its all about the spring tension. Your dog engagement looks fine.
If it sounds like a machine gun. You got it right. ;)
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 14, 2017, 12:44:34 AM
Looks like you removed too much material on the top. Shouldn't matter.
You need to get it all together to make sure it functions well.
I don't see any reason it wouldn't.
Its all about the spring tension. Your dog engagement looks fine.
If it sounds like a machine gun. You got it right. ;)
I tested it like that and it sounds good no issues. So your thoughts are reassuring. I didn't like I went too much over the top. I used a dremel what tip do you use?
Sal turned me on to these.
It is worth the money. Trust me.
The dremel brand cutters dull. This will be the last set you buy for plate cutting.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130885906276?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Daron, the bits I purchased 5 years ago are still cutting...well worth the money.
TheReelShop, you did a neat job on the grinding, you went a little heavy towards the center of the plate, but it shouldn't be an issue.
Try not to grind in the house, you don't want to inhale that dust. If I do one, I take my dremel outdoors and still wear a dust mask.
Sal
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 15, 2017, 09:15:35 AM
Sal turned me on to these.
It is worth the money. Trust me.
The dremel brand cutters dull. This will be the last set you buy for plate cutting.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130885906276?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Great I'll be grabbing a set
Quote from: Alto Mare on June 15, 2017, 10:14:38 AM
Daron, the bits I purchased 5 years ago are still cutting...well worth the money.
TheReelShop, you did a neat job on the grinding, you went a little heavy towards the center of the plate, but it shouldn't be an issue.
Try not to grind in the house, you don't want to inhale that dust. If I do one, I take my dremel outdoors and still wear a dust mask.
Sal
I have another one to do this time I'll wait for the Dremel tips to get here. I did it outside and quickly realized a mask is a must! I just took the pics inside.. 👍🏻
Thanks to Lee for the dogs. I had to slightly modify hem but they are perfect!
This was before modifying (the one that's fit right was trimmed prior to picture)
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And finally fitted!
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Remember the bridge plate's gotta be supported in part by the bakelite sideplate after you tighten down the bridge screws. Your material removal seems from the picture, not to be excessive at all, though.
Gfish
The one on the left is not seating deep enough in the ratchet tooth. Grind a little off the bottom of it to make it seat deeper & a little off the tip to put them in sync. Rudy
Quote from: RowdyW on June 20, 2017, 05:19:03 PM
The one on the left is not seating deep enough in the ratchet tooth. Grind a little off the bottom of it to make it seat deeper & a little off the tip to put them in sync. Rudy
Thanks for that notice.
Both dogs are of different sizes. That's normal right?
They will be after you modify them for simultaneous engagement.
This was the last reel I did for a client.
They started out the same size.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 20, 2017, 07:47:19 PM
They will be after you modify them for simultaneous engagement.
This was the last reel I did for a client.
Great Thanks Daron!!
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 15, 2017, 09:15:35 AM
Sal turned me on to these.
It is worth the money. Trust me.
The dremel brand cutters dull. This will be the last set you buy for plate cutting.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130885906276?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
thanks! i just ordered a set as well. ;D
Glad to see you milling around more often Boss. ;)
You will like those bits.
Quote from: TheReelShop on June 20, 2017, 10:36:48 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 20, 2017, 07:47:19 PM
They will be after you modify them for simultaneous engagement.
This was the last reel I did for a client.
Great Thanks Daron!!
Yea thats nice work Daron
I'm going to take the reel apart and do that. Do you know who might have a ss sleeve. Tom is out Sheesh!
Thanks Daron for the SS sleeve. So I had to make some more adjustments to double dog on the SS sleeve. I realized there were differences in dog fitment since the SS sleeve has an extra tooth. But happy with the results.
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That looks really good! You've gotten it down quickly. :D
For others with the knowledge who see this, could we notch the secondary dog at the tip to catch on two teeth at once? It might have to be made thicker to the tip, but seeing these pictures it almost looks like it is notched already.
Quote from: Army_of_One on June 25, 2017, 02:15:12 AM
That looks really good! You've gotten it down quickly. :D
For others with the knowledge who see this, could we notch the secondary dog at the tip to catch on two teeth at once? It might have to be made thicker to the tip, but seeing these pictures it almost looks like it is notched already.
I don't really understand what you mean? When you say secondary which one do you mean when referring to the picture (the dog on top or the one on the bottom).
For this project, both dogs are of different sizes, I trimmed like the others have done to allow for proper placement and dual engagement. These dogs were made for a 117L which I'm happy they were because 2 standard 12/0 dogs wouldn't work at least from what I experienced.
Quote from: Gfish on June 20, 2017, 05:18:01 PM
Remember the bridge plate's gotta be supported in part by the bakelite sideplate after you tighten down the bridge screws. Your material removal seems from the picture, not to be excessive at all, though.
Gfish
BTW I got the Baitrunner all built and ready to go.!
Quote from: TheReelShop on June 25, 2017, 02:31:50 AM
Quote from: Army_of_One on June 25, 2017, 02:15:12 AM
That looks really good! You've gotten it down quickly. :D
For others with the knowledge who see this, could we notch the secondary dog at the tip to catch on two teeth at once? It might have to be made thicker to the tip, but seeing these pictures it almost looks like it is notched already.
I don't really understand what you mean? When you say secondary which one do you mean when referring to the picture (the dog on top or the one on the bottom).
For this project, both dogs are of different sizes, I trimmed like the others have done to allow for proper placement and dual engagement. These dogs were made for a 117L which I'm happy they were because 2 standard 12/0 dogs wouldn't work at least from what I experienced.
The top one. It looks like it could be notched to catch the tooth at the tip and the next tooth closest to the bridge plate screw.
Quote from: Army_of_One on June 25, 2017, 02:41:45 AM
Quote from: TheReelShop on June 25, 2017, 02:31:50 AM
Quote from: Army_of_One on June 25, 2017, 02:15:12 AM
That looks really good! You've gotten it down quickly. :D
For others with the knowledge who see this, could we notch the secondary dog at the tip to catch on two teeth at once? It might have to be made thicker to the tip, but seeing these pictures it almost looks like it is notched already.
I don't really understand what you mean? When you say secondary which one do you mean when referring to the picture (the dog on top or the one on the bottom).
For this project, both dogs are of different sizes, I trimmed like the others have done to allow for proper placement and dual engagement. These dogs were made for a 117L which I'm happy they were because 2 standard 12/0 dogs wouldn't work at least from what I experienced.
The top one. It looks like it could be notched to catch the tooth at the tip and the next tooth closest to the bridge plate screw.
Oh I understand now what you mean. I notched the dog to fit like that. A little bit thicker and maybe it can grab two teeth at once. Clever thought there, having a total of 3 locked teeth!
Quote from: TheReelShop on June 25, 2017, 03:13:37 AM
Quote from: Army_of_One on June 25, 2017, 02:41:45 AM
Quote from: TheReelShop on June 25, 2017, 02:31:50 AM
Quote from: Army_of_One on June 25, 2017, 02:15:12 AM
That looks really good! You've gotten it down quickly. :D
For others with the knowledge who see this, could we notch the secondary dog at the tip to catch on two teeth at once? It might have to be made thicker to the tip, but seeing these pictures it almost looks like it is notched already.
I don't really understand what you mean? When you say secondary which one do you mean when referring to the picture (the dog on top or the one on the bottom).
For this project, both dogs are of different sizes, I trimmed like the others have done to allow for proper placement and dual engagement. These dogs were made for a 117L which I'm happy they were because 2 standard 12/0 dogs wouldn't work at least from what I experienced.
The top one. It looks like it could be notched to catch the tooth at the tip and the next tooth closest to the bridge plate screw.
Oh I understand now what you mean. I notched the dog to fit like that. A little bit thicker and maybe it can grab two teeth at once. Clever thought there, having a total of 3 locked teeth!
If you notched it where I was talking about already, it doesn't seem like it was my idea. ;)
Lee made these dogs like 117's without the tail.
That notch is the way to go to make them engage simultaneously.
I believe you would break the bridge post before the dogs fail.
Daron
Quote from: Army_of_One on June 25, 2017, 02:15:12 AM
That looks really good! You've gotten it down quickly. :D
For others with the knowledge who see this, could we notch the secondary dog at the tip to catch on two teeth at once? It might have to be made thicker to the tip, but seeing these pictures it almost looks like it is notched already.
As the example below? This is how a single dog engages two teeth on the 349 Mariner.
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/rumbum01/P1010319.jpg)
Quote from: George4741 on June 25, 2017, 07:12:48 PM
Quote from: Army_of_One on June 25, 2017, 02:15:12 AM
That looks really good! You've gotten it down quickly. :D
For others with the knowledge who see this, could we notch the secondary dog at the tip to catch on two teeth at once? It might have to be made thicker to the tip, but seeing these pictures it almost looks like it is notched already.
As the example below? This is how a single dog engages two teeth on the 349 Mariner.
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/rumbum01/P1010319.jpg)
Exactly!
Quote from: Army_of_One on June 25, 2017, 10:27:51 PM
Quote from: George4741 on June 25, 2017, 07:12:48 PM
Quote from: Army_of_One on June 25, 2017, 02:15:12 AM
That looks really good! You've gotten it down quickly. :D
For others with the knowledge who see this, could we notch the secondary dog at the tip to catch on two teeth at once? It might have to be made thicker to the tip, but seeing these pictures it almost looks like it is notched already.
As the example below? This is how a single dog engages two teeth on the 349 Mariner.
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q523/rumbum01/P1010319.jpg)
Exactly!
That's neat
Quote from: TheReelShop on June 25, 2017, 02:34:24 AM
Quote from: Gfish on June 20, 2017, 05:18:01 PM
Remember the bridge plate's gotta be supported in part by the bakelite sideplate after you tighten down the bridge screws. Your material removal seems from the picture, not to be excessive at all, though.
Gfish
BTW I got the Baitrunner all built and ready to go.!
Off the subject I know, but how long it take to reassemble the Baitrunner?
Gfish
Quote from: Gfish on June 26, 2017, 03:46:33 AM
Quote from: TheReelShop on June 25, 2017, 02:34:24 AM
Quote from: Gfish on June 20, 2017, 05:18:01 PM
Remember the bridge plate's gotta be supported in part by the bakelite sideplate after you tighten down the bridge screws. Your material removal seems from the picture, not to be excessive at all, though.
Gfish
BTW I got the Baitrunner all built and ready to go.!
Off the subject I know, but how long it take to reassemble the Baitrunner?
Gfish
First day I got everything sorted and determined what was missing, I put it all together in a day except it wasnt complete since some parts tool over a week to get here!. But its great!
Getting spooled with 150lb Fins Spectra Braid
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Then some topshot of 100lb Bullbuster!!
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I ran some tests once spooled. I have Adam's drag insert kit. I was able to get 65lbs of drag and thats really over tightening. That is also pulling slow and with the rod straight. On the drag insert after the last CF washer I have two thick metal washers and the old original under main gear washer (I have the delrin washer now under the main gear that came with the insert kit). Anyone else get different numbers?
I think that is more than you can hold on to.
My tests were done as a dead lift with the reel mounted to a rod.
Then let the weight down and see how smooth it was over the side of the deck.
100lb test and my 12/0 mounted to Calstar Baja Boomer, That ammo can weighs 30lbs.
Seems as if then I got everything set up about right. Now I just need to land one!!!! ;D