Just wondering if $75 is a fair price for this reel. Looking to buy it to use pier fishing for sharks.
Thanks
-Steve
Its in great shape and box included. Price is fair but for what you want to do I would look for a one piece aluminum frame. No doubt that reel has killed many big fish but frame twist can be an issue. I might suggest you look for a 9/0 (115) black plated Penn for shark fishing. You will have more line capacity and the same drive train as the 114H. The 9/0 can be found with an aluminum spool and the new Chinese version with a 1 piece frame. Just my 2 cents. Hopefully Daron "Shark Hunter" will chime in. Bill
As Bill said, fair price: boxed, in great shape, and a real tank of a reel. A point tho, Bill, the Chinese 9/0 is graphite framed. What to consider: what do you feel is reasonable expectation of shark size? That reel should deal with anything to 150 no problem, and someone will likely chime in with a number north of that. I caught an 8' with a 114HLW aluminum frame on 50lb test and reel didn't sweat at all, tho I did. Will you be using braid? This increases your capacity but also can push past design limits, as Bill said, likely frame first. That 114H at and an aluminum frame will kill very large fish. My 0.02.
Also: that reel likely has original drags. Were me, I'd put in new carbontex and see if I could break it at that price.
Ditto on the drag washers. "Brake Lining" prolly means asbestos. Asbestos prolly means thick washers. So you might haveta put more'n a 5 stack in there.
I bought an aluminum framed HLW 6/0 and a HL 6/0 also aluminium framed. Both frames from Penn. Mysticpennparts may not have them anymore, but eBay should(whole reels).
Box has a postal code, not zip code, also is a 114 box with an H sticker so early 60's reel, probably first year? I agree with G on old 3 stack drag. My Guess it would fetch more as an unfished shelfie from a collector. Not to many boxes like that exist any more. Sandbar that is a 50lb class reel good enough for most sharks and with the huge capacity in say 60 lb braid along with the updated carbon fiber drags you could do a lot worse for seventy five bucks.
This reel is in too good of shape to modify and use. I would look around for a nice lightly used one at a lower price to upgrade and fish, preferably one with a solid frame.
Maybe an unpopular opinion but in the modern world I'd rather have a 6/0 with 50# braid than a 9/0 with 50# mono.
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on June 10, 2024, 03:42:44 PMMaybe an unpopular opinion but in the modern world I'd rather have a 6/0 with 50# braid than a 9/0 with 50# mono.
The 114H filled with 60 or 80 pound spectra would work well. I would not consider using more than 100' of mono, I use 20-30 foot topshots on all of my reels and sometimes as short as 3'.
The 9/0 has the same drive train of the 114H and almost 2x the line capacity of the 114HLW. If I was shark fishing I would want to have a lot of line. If a shark takes off with 300yds of line on a 114HLW you are getting close to the bottom, on a 9/0 you have lost about 1/3. This would up your inches per crank. If I had the chance of a big shark picking up my bait I would want the line capacity. JMO. Bill
A 9/0 is going to get quite heavy holding it for a while.
The 114H should work fine, but if the shark is over 4 feet, you are going to have a rough time reeling him up.
sandbar-
I have a lightly used well-maintained 114H Special Senator (bought ~2000) w/5-stack HT-100s. Spooled w/80# mono.
Can't remember last time I used, but that being the case, happy to let it go to someone who'll use it.
shoot me a pm if you're interested.
Keith
hmmm. I might have to find my tib frame 6/0 and see if I can strip some gears.
Quote from: sciaenops on June 11, 2024, 07:39:00 PMsandbar-
I have a lightly used well-maintained 114H Special Senator (bought ~2000) w/5-stack HT-100s. Spooled w/80# mono.
Can't remember last time I used, but that being the case, happy to let it go to someone who'll use it.
shoot me a pm if you're interested.
Keith
You're a good man Keith.
The state of Florida mandates 80# test line as a minimum in order to target sharks.
Quote from: OhReely on June 12, 2024, 02:09:51 PMThe state of Florida mandates 80# test line as a minimum in order to target sharks.
Thank you for sharing that. Where is that specified? I'm not calling you a liar I've just never heard that and have definitely not always been in compliance. Though frankly I'm not necessarily targeting sharks just throwing cut bait with a wire leader. It ain't always a shark that bites it.
Quote from: sciaenops on June 11, 2024, 07:39:00 PMsandbar-
I have a lightly used well-maintained 114H Special Senator (bought ~2000) w/5-stack HT-100s. Spooled w/80# mono.
Can't remember last time I used, but that being the case, happy to let it go to someone who'll use it.
shoot me a pm if you're interested.
Keith
Thanks!
PM sent
-Steve
Jason,
It's in the FWC regs online. The FWC requires anyone who wants to target sharks from shore to take an online course, pass a simple 10 question test at the end and apply for a free shark fishing permit which is applied to their license. Some of the things specified are line, hooks, species identification, implements you must have on hand. Personally I don't regard it as government intrusion it's intended to protect fishermen, bystanders and wildlife. There are some absolutely monstrous sharks caught from shore here in SWFL.
This brings up another point and it's just my personal opinion. Is it ethical to target sharks from a pier? Certain species of sharks here may not be removed from the water for release regardless of size. A few years back a nearly 11' Sawfish was caught by a fisherman on the Naples pier. He walked the fish from wherever he was when he hooked it all the way back to shore. By the time he got there a huge crowd had gathered to watch and the fish was thrashing with it's huge bill. Luckily no one was injured. There's a video on YouTube.
The reason I brought it up in the first place is because the OP is located in FL and said he wanted to target sharks. Now can an FWC official tell that you're targeting sharks? You know what they say "pay your money, take your chances".
Quote from: OhReely on June 13, 2024, 12:48:25 PMJason,
It's in the FWC regs online. The FWC requires anyone who wants to target sharks from shore to take an online course, pass a simple 10 question test at the end and apply for a free shark fishing permit which is applied to their license. Some of the things specified are line, hooks, species identification, implements you must have on hand. Personally I don't regard it as government intrusion it's intended to protect fishermen, bystanders and wildlife. There are some absolutely monstrous sharks caught from shore here in SWFL.
This brings up another point and it's just my personal opinion. Is it ethical to target sharks from a pier? Certain species of sharks here may not be removed from the water for release regardless of size. A few years back a nearly 11' Sawfish was caught by a fisherman on the Naples pier. He walked the fish from wherever he was when he hooked it all the way back to shore. By the time he got there a huge crowd had gathered to watch and the fish was thrashing with it's huge bill. Luckily no one was injured. There's a video on YouTube.
The reason I brought it up in the first place is because the OP is located in FL. Now can an FWC official tell that you're targeting sharks? You know what they say "pay you're money, take your chances".
Thanks for the informative response. I'm gonna look into that.
I'm generally in agreement with most FWC regulations. And it's usually quite easy to see how the regs they impose relate to their generally reasonable goals that are agreeable to those who want to KEEP catching fish for years to come.
My argument, if I can call it that, is how complicated and specific they make things and how poorly they advertise those rules unless you specifically go looking for them.
But I've already derailed this thread once before, I don't mean to do it again.
The OP can say whether or not his thread was hijacked. But I don't see how providing him with information that might affect his choice of a reel for a specific fishery is hijacking his thread. Isn't that what every other poster in this thread tried to do? And the info in my post won't cost him a penny, no upgrades needed.
We are really good taking threads into left field. A lot is learned when that happens. No harm no foul.
I have purchased the reel and intend to use it to fish from the St Simons Island Pier in Georgia where we vacation. There is a strong group of avid shark fishermen that frequent that pier and help each other with landing and in some cases, tagging the sharks.
The estuary between St Simons and Jekyll Island. I won't even fish it there unless I feel like they will accept me fishing their space and they have my back. I probably won't use it in Florida unless I take it to the Skyway pier. I won't be targeting sharks there.
-Steve
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Congrats. I think you made a great deal on a great reel.
That sounds wild. I also realize I spaced and thought I was on a different thread. I have my moments.