Penn Special Senator 114H

Started by sandbar, June 09, 2024, 02:00:16 AM

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sandbar

Just wondering if $75 is a fair price for this reel. Looking to buy it to use pier fishing for sharks.
Thanks
-Steve

Bill B

Its in great shape and box included. Price is fair but for what you want to do I would look for a one piece aluminum frame.   No doubt that reel has killed many big fish but frame twist can be an issue.  I might suggest you look for a 9/0 (115) black plated Penn for shark fishing.  You will have more line capacity and the same drive train as the 114H.  The 9/0 can be found with an aluminum spool and the new Chinese version with a 1 piece frame.  Just my 2 cents. Hopefully Daron "Shark Hunter" will chime in.  Bill
It may not be very productive,
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thorhammer

As Bill said, fair price: boxed, in great shape, and a real tank of a reel. A point tho, Bill, the Chinese 9/0 is graphite framed. What to consider: what do you feel is reasonable expectation of shark size? That reel should deal with anything to 150 no problem, and someone will likely chime in with a number north of that. I caught an 8' with a 114HLW aluminum frame on 50lb test and reel didn't sweat at all, tho I did. Will you be using braid? This increases your capacity but also can push past design limits, as Bill said, likely frame first. That 114H at and an aluminum frame will kill very large fish. My 0.02.

Also: that reel likely has original drags. Were me, I'd put in new carbontex and see if I could break it at that price.

Gfish

Ditto on the drag washers. "Brake Lining" prolly means asbestos. Asbestos prolly means thick washers. So you might haveta put more'n a 5 stack in there.
I bought an aluminum framed HLW 6/0 and a HL 6/0 also aluminium framed. Both frames from Penn. Mysticpennparts may not have them anymore, but eBay should(whole reels).
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Cuttyhunker

Box has a postal code, not zip code, also is a 114 box with an H sticker so early 60's reel, probably first year? I agree with G on old 3 stack drag.  My Guess it would fetch more as an unfished shelfie from a collector.  Not to many boxes like that  exist any more.  Sandbar that is a 50lb class reel good enough for most sharks and with the huge capacity in say 60 lb braid along with the updated carbon fiber drags you could do a lot worse for seventy five bucks.
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Keta

This reel is in too good of shape to modify and use.  I would look around for a nice lightly used one at a lower price to upgrade and fish,  preferably one with a solid frame.
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JasonGotaProblem

Maybe an unpopular opinion but in the modern world I'd rather have a 6/0 with 50# braid than a 9/0 with 50# mono.
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Keta

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Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on June 10, 2024, 03:42:44 PMMaybe an unpopular opinion but in the modern world I'd rather have a 6/0 with 50# braid than a 9/0 with 50# mono.

The 114H filled with 60 or 80 pound spectra would work well.  I would not consider using more than 100' of mono, I use 20-30 foot topshots on all of my reels and sometimes as short as 3'.
Hi, my name is Lee and I have a fishing gear problem.

I have all of the answers, yup, no, maybe.

A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way.
Mark Twain

Bill B

The 9/0 has the same drive train of the 114H and almost 2x the line capacity of the 114HLW.  If I was shark fishing I would want to have a lot of line.  If a shark takes off with 300yds of line on a 114HLW you are getting close to the bottom, on a 9/0 you have lost about 1/3. This would up your inches per crank. If I had the chance of a big shark picking up my bait I would want the line capacity. JMO. Bill
It may not be very productive,
but it's sure going to be interesting!

Shark Hunter

A 9/0 is going to get quite heavy holding it for a while.
The 114H should work fine, but if the shark is over 4 feet, you are going to have a rough time reeling him up.
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sciaenops

sandbar-

I have a lightly used well-maintained 114H Special Senator (bought ~2000) w/5-stack HT-100s. Spooled w/80# mono.

Can't remember last time I used, but that being the case, happy to let it go to someone who'll use it.

shoot me a pm if you're interested.

Keith

Rocket Dog

hmmm. I might have to find my tib frame 6/0 and see if I can strip some gears.

Bill B

Quote from: sciaenops on June 11, 2024, 07:39:00 PMsandbar-

I have a lightly used well-maintained 114H Special Senator (bought ~2000) w/5-stack HT-100s. Spooled w/80# mono.

Can't remember last time I used, but that being the case, happy to let it go to someone who'll use it.

shoot me a pm if you're interested.

Keith

You're a good man Keith.
It may not be very productive,
but it's sure going to be interesting!

OhReely

The state of Florida mandates 80# test line as a minimum in order to target sharks.

JasonGotaProblem

Quote from: OhReely on June 12, 2024, 02:09:51 PMThe state of Florida mandates 80# test line as a minimum in order to target sharks.
Thank you for sharing that. Where is that specified? I'm not calling you a liar I've just never heard that and have definitely not always been in compliance. Though frankly I'm not necessarily targeting sharks just throwing cut bait with a wire leader. It ain't always a shark that bites it.
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.