The thread title says it all. I love my dewalts but apparently nobody else does. Rigid, Makita. Whatever. But how cool would that be? D batteries suck.
Most DC motors will handle over voltage better than under voltage and 19v is not that much higher than 12v. I have a old bilge pump I will power up with a 19v drill battery and see if it likes the extra voltage.
Are you looking to up the air pump also from 3 volt to 12 volt ? Battery 12 or 18 volt ?
What is the voltage of the aerator? You might consider a low to mid AH LiFePO battery. You can find them on Amazon for less than $50. Add a inline fuze and switch and the price should be less than a hand tool battery. A LiFePO charger will run the price up but I have seen batteries with chargers for a fair price.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09L1ZXXMV/ref=dp_iou_view_item?ie=UTF8&th=1
Quote from: Keta on December 29, 2024, 03:06:50 AMWhat is the voltage of the aerator? You might consider a low to mid AH LiFePO battery. You can find them on Amazon for less than $50. Add a inline fuze and switch and the price should be less than a hand tool battery. A LiFePO charger will run the price up but I have seen batteries with chargers for a fair price.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09L1ZXXMV/ref=dp_iou_view_item?ie=UTF8&th=1
I'm talking about the little "quiet bubbles" aerators. They run on 2 D batteries but can run on one. I imagine a buck converter to get an 18v drill battery rigged up to that could make it run for just about forever. And when it does eventually die you can swap it out easy and recharge.
I know you cool kids who fish from boats don't spend much time thinking about aerators for buckets But the few options out there aren't very reliable. And it sucks to stop fishing for a few hours and come back to find out your battery died and with it your bait.
I recently found some old 18650 batteries that I bought right before I quit vaping in 2019. But I haven't charged them yet because that sounds like another word for a time bomb.
You could build a battery pack and run multiple 1.5v D cell batteries hooked up series/parallel, multiple banks of paired batteries.
Just some ideas
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Power+Wheel+Adapter&i=tools&crid=2VPJEYXATWNY6&sprefix=power+wheel+adapter%2Ctools%2C219&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
https://www.amazon.com/Converter-Regulator-Transformer-Waterproof-Compatible/dp/B09ZT6VTNV/ref=asc_df_B09ZT6VTNV?mcid=e2fd1847c3b73f1ab744a88992295a6d&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=6934370644
With one of those a lead acid motorcycle battery would be a low cost option.
These drop the voltage to 14.4
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Fishing+Reel+Battery+Adapter&i=sporting&crid=I1Q5FYD9PC0U&sprefix=fishing+reel+battery+adapter%2Csporting%2C111&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
Then use something like this
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=12+volt+aerator+pump&crid=2VKVFL70ULVL2&sprefix=12+volt+areator%2Caps%2C130&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_15
I started using the AA baby bubble boxes,it uses 1 or 2 (1.5 - 3 vDC) I believe
2 AA will last 20 hours it seems, never timed it.I have discovered you have to spin the batteries sometimes or clean the contacts with alcohol/acid brush or Qtip.Also,when it's cold the pump may need encouraging to get going,I use my finger to get it started,probably just needs a dash of Lucas reel oil?
I have a 120VAC bubble box for long term,but I like your idea on the surf
https://www.walmart.com/ip/37825661
Cool. A rechargeable mini air pump.
I try reduce the clutter in the yak by tossing a few into the "mirage drive" well. With the drive pedals or motor installed the right size bait fish can't escape. As the yak moves there's always a flow of water. The motor churns up quite a bit more than the pedals. Also I have the classic PVC tube with screens on both ends and holes in the side. The tube method is much more of a hassle; you have to move it outta the way all the time(tangle-ups)and try not to troll with it deployed.
My uncle used to use a 12v bilge pump for an aerator in his pontoon boat livewell,lots of bubbles :D
Off topic but in an emergency situation (battery died) my dad taught me to add ice.
The oxygen trapped in the ice will release when it melts.
Not too much ice though.
Steve
Quote from: Crab Pot on December 29, 2024, 05:34:04 PMOff topic but in an emergency situation (battery died) my dad taught me to add ice.
The oxygen trapped in the ice will release when it melts.
Not too much ice though.
Steve
Interesting. Probably works great for freshwater bait.
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on December 29, 2024, 06:13:17 PMQuote from: Crab Pot on December 29, 2024, 05:34:04 PMOff topic but in an emergency situation (battery died) my dad taught me to add ice.
The oxygen trapped in the ice will release when it melts.
Not too much ice though.
Steve
Interesting. Probably works great for freshwater bait.
Hey Bait, is Short Lived, they don't care!
We were in the Pensacola north area, so brackish?
We caught a lot of Drum if that helps,
Steve
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on December 29, 2024, 06:13:17 PMQuote from: Crab Pot on December 29, 2024, 05:34:04 PMOff topic but in an emergency situation (battery died) my dad taught me to add ice.
The oxygen trapped in the ice will release when it melts.
Not too much ice though.
Steve
Interesting. Probably works great for freshwater bait.
Tibe bit information
No, frozen water (ice) does not hold more oxygen than liquid water; in fact, it holds significantly less oxygen because when water freezes, most of the dissolved oxygen is expelled and pushed out into the remaining liquid water, meaning the ice itself contains very little oxygen.
Cold water, with its slow moving molecules, holds more dissolved oxygen than warm water. As water heats up, the molecules within it move faster, pushing some of the free oxygen atoms into the atmosphere.
I have a 35 gallon live well barrel that I circulate water with a bag of ice in it , because the bay water temperature is upper 70s low 80s . The cold water slows down the bait fish metabolism .
Hmmm, slower metabolic rate, less O2 needed. Colder water holds more dissolved O2. Makes lots of sense to add ice. Only possible negative I can see might be temp acclimated baitfish being sensitive to sudden immersion in cold or warmer water.
Quote from: Gfish on December 30, 2024, 04:58:26 PMHmmm, slower metabolic rate, less O2 needed. Colder water holds more dissolved O2. Makes lots of sense to add ice. Only possible negative I can see might be temp acclimated baitfish being sensitive to sudden immersion in cold or warmer water.
Or desalinization.
Quote from: Gfish on December 30, 2024, 04:58:26 PMOnly possible negative I can see might be temp acclimated baitfish being sensitive to sudden immersion in cold or warmer water.
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I have had minnows die in GA with too much ice maybe got too cold for them in 100 freakin' degrees :-\
Oftentimes, for me, it works to look at a situation/problem kind of backwards.
If a different aerator could be used that runs off of a USB supply —- then maybe 18V batteries could be used?
Then it would be easy —- just plug 'n play.
There is so much available these days in electronics for nearly every application —- I would be surprised if something wasn't available.
Here are a couple that I use for various tasks.
Best, Fred
USB is 5VDC,maybe using a load resistor for the baby bubble box it works on 1.5-3VDC ?
Most 3v DC motors will be happy running on 5v DC.
A solar cellphone battery bank/charger might work.
yep low current pretty much
This might work?
Best, Fred
https://www.amazon.com/Pawfly-Aerator-Electric-Rechargeable-Portable/dp/B0D1FQPNKF/ref=asc_df_B0D1FQPNKF?mcid=2b4f5284fd793f14879b4db97d06b2b5&hvocijid=18067617468690464682-B0D1FQPNKF-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18067617468690464682&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031820&hvtargid=pla-2281435180538&th=1&psc=1
Quote from: foakes on December 31, 2024, 02:09:54 AMThis might work?
Best, Fred
https://www.amazon.com/Pawfly-Aerator-Electric-Rechargeable-Portable/dp/B0D1FQPNKF/ref=asc_df_B0D1FQPNKF?mcid=2b4f5284fd793f14879b4db97d06b2b5&hvocijid=18067617468690464682-B0D1FQPNKF-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18067617468690464682&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031820&hvtargid=pla-2281435180538&th=1&psc=1
If needed to make its battery last longer, plug it into an 18v battery with an adapter!
Yep! Best, Fred
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on December 29, 2024, 02:07:19 AMThe thread title says it all. I love my dewalts but apparently nobody else does. Rigid, Makita. Whatever. But how cool would that be? D batteries suck.
You can buy an adapter (https://www.amazon.com/DKSIDKN-Charger-Adapter-Charging-Interface/dp/B0C1BSCTX7/ref=sr_1_10?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.CLDqC6Xf3DFReXY_DOwQaoGdYDgMxdtx52zbHsZ6U3mKHEylt19diZ9MKFA6f_ETOhN_FCpOZcIdlFEMb2PccBEpPUS4DVg6NDEtByEm-c2xZQl3ZTO4rkuPfQI4id83uUZfr6jzAGB6CxuLr4-ONqh0xzzEhDGW5DQhFnuWWch9d64ChVhUSplYf1yASQAZlS8SKLd523pHX3R_KfP4RN6dT5Yvc5pO3v6Gcq4Fu3TZbmY51cKBMKum5nS3sphmbKB7hECGNDpATVrXiHAcLMMzSpuU1dJZ8wRPHgqnfltW16w3pK9YwUNrb8KHyIwgyBbQ8HIRmxOHxacbzZ235e7WAIVKyduzBiy9-Ko8WZfAmFCECPYlgDxlKnpJ_1Qz.y5jCS6kFxXbGlvE_uoCVwhUOiv0Kjr0U6mrXsgMpX-g&dib_tag=se&keywords=Battery+adapter+Converters+with+USB+output&qid=1735653856&s=power-hand-tools&sr=1-10-catcorr) with USB outputs and use one of these $3 cables (https://www.amazon.com/Eliminators-Step-Down-Converter-Batteries-Electronics/dp/B0D3L17PFR/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.CLDqC6Xf3DFReXY_DOwQaoGdYDgMxdtx52zbHsZ6U3mKHEylt19diZ9MKFA6f_ETOhN_FCpOZcIdlFEMb2PccBEpPUS4DVg6NDEtByEm-c2xZQl3ZTO4rkuPfQI4id83uUZfr6jzAGB6CxuLr4-ONqh0xzzEhDGW5DQhFnuWWch9d64ChVhUSplYf1yASQAZlS8SKLd523pHX3R_KfP4RN6dT5Yvc5pO3v6Gcq4Fu3TZbmY51cKBMKum5nS3sphmbKB7hECGNDpATVrXiHAcLMMzSpuU1dJZ8wRPHgqnfltW16w3pK9YwUNrb8KHyIwgyBbQ8HIRmxOHxacbzZ235e7WAIVKyduzBiy9-Ko8WZfAmFCECPYlgDxlKnpJ_1Qz.y5jCS6kFxXbGlvE_uoCVwhUOiv0Kjr0U6mrXsgMpX-g&dib_tag=se&keywords=Battery+adapter+Converters+with+USB+output&qid=1735653856&s=power-hand-tools&sr=1-6-catcorr)to achieve your solution.
I'm sure you can run the aerator off of the 5V directly and I'm fairly certain you could find an old USB cable lying around (possibly from an old USB printer cable) -- cut one end off and splice it into your aerator and see if it works.
It would be best to do that before searching for a battery adapter with USB ports for desired battery.
I forgot to mention that there are many solutions for a 12V aerator solution on Amazon, search for this string "battery adaptors for 12v output" or similar.
Quote from: Keta on December 30, 2024, 05:11:16 PMQuote from: Gfish on December 30, 2024, 04:58:26 PMOnly possible negative I can see might be temp acclimated baitfish being sensitive to sudden immersion in cold or warmer water.
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Almost completely off-topic, so pardon me; but scientists use Stickleback minnows at the; "tolerate almost any water quality issue" end of the spectrum, and Rainbow trout for the; "sensitive to almost anything" end of the spectrum, to test water quality parameters for EPA purposes.
Sticklebacks might make good and hearty bait minnows and maybe cutting off the spines would make 'em even better.
Hatchery rainbows make good crawdad bait.
What about those small solar powered pumps for ponds. They float on the surface and gurgle water, enough to break the surface tension to get some O2 in the water. Would fit a 5 gal bucket