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Title: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on December 29, 2024, 02:07:19 AM
The thread title says it all. I love my dewalts but apparently nobody else does. Rigid, Makita. Whatever. But how cool would that be? D batteries suck.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Keta on December 29, 2024, 02:15:06 AM
Most DC motors will handle over voltage better than under voltage and 19v is not that much higher than 12v.  I have a old bilge pump I will power up with a 19v drill battery and see if it likes the extra voltage.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: oldmanjoe on December 29, 2024, 02:22:02 AM
Are you looking to up the air pump also from 3 volt to 12 volt ?      Battery 12 or 18 volt  ?
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Keta on December 29, 2024, 03:06:50 AM
What is the voltage of the aerator? You might consider a low to mid AH LiFePO battery.  You can find them on Amazon for less than $50.  Add a inline fuze and switch and the price should be less than a hand tool battery. A LiFePO charger will run the price up but I have seen batteries with chargers for a fair price.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09L1ZXXMV/ref=dp_iou_view_item?ie=UTF8&th=1
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on December 29, 2024, 03:34:58 AM
Quote from: Keta on December 29, 2024, 03:06:50 AMWhat is the voltage of the aerator? You might consider a low to mid AH LiFePO battery.  You can find them on Amazon for less than $50.  Add a inline fuze and switch and the price should be less than a hand tool battery. A LiFePO charger will run the price up but I have seen batteries with chargers for a fair price.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09L1ZXXMV/ref=dp_iou_view_item?ie=UTF8&th=1
I'm talking about the little "quiet bubbles" aerators. They run on 2 D batteries but can run on one. I imagine a buck converter to get an 18v drill battery rigged up to that could make it run for just about forever. And when it does eventually die you can swap it out easy and recharge.

I know you cool kids who fish from boats don't spend much time thinking about aerators for buckets But the few options out there aren't very reliable. And it sucks to stop fishing for a few hours and come back to find out your battery died and with it your bait.

I recently found some old 18650 batteries that I bought right before I quit vaping in 2019. But I haven't charged them yet because that sounds like another word for a time bomb.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Keta on December 29, 2024, 04:07:16 AM
You could build a battery pack and run multiple 1.5v D cell  batteries hooked up series/parallel, multiple banks of paired batteries.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: oldmanjoe on December 29, 2024, 04:16:56 AM
Just some ideas
 https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Power+Wheel+Adapter&i=tools&crid=2VPJEYXATWNY6&sprefix=power+wheel+adapter%2Ctools%2C219&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

https://www.amazon.com/Converter-Regulator-Transformer-Waterproof-Compatible/dp/B09ZT6VTNV/ref=asc_df_B09ZT6VTNV?mcid=e2fd1847c3b73f1ab744a88992295a6d&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=6934370644
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Keta on December 29, 2024, 04:37:23 AM
With one of those a lead acid motorcycle battery would be a low cost option.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: day0ne on December 29, 2024, 06:41:01 AM
These drop the voltage to 14.4

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Fishing+Reel+Battery+Adapter&i=sporting&crid=I1Q5FYD9PC0U&sprefix=fishing+reel+battery+adapter%2Csporting%2C111&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

Then use something like this

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=12+volt+aerator+pump&crid=2VKVFL70ULVL2&sprefix=12+volt+areator%2Caps%2C130&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_15
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: jgp12000 on December 29, 2024, 09:59:07 AM
I started using the AA baby bubble boxes,it uses 1 or 2  (1.5 - 3 vDC) I believe
2 AA will last 20 hours it seems, never timed it.I have discovered you have to spin the batteries sometimes or clean the contacts with alcohol/acid brush or Qtip.Also,when it's cold the pump may need encouraging to get going,I use my finger to get it started,probably just needs a dash of Lucas reel oil?

I have a 120VAC bubble box for long term,but I like your idea on the surf


https://www.walmart.com/ip/37825661



Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Gfish on December 29, 2024, 03:54:39 PM
Cool. A rechargeable mini air pump.
I try reduce the clutter in the yak by tossing a few into the "mirage drive" well. With the drive pedals or motor installed the right size bait fish can't escape. As the yak moves there's always a flow of water. The motor churns up quite a bit more than the pedals. Also I have the classic PVC tube with screens on both ends and holes in the side. The tube method is much more of a hassle; you have to move it outta the way all the time(tangle-ups)and try not to troll with it deployed.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: jgp12000 on December 29, 2024, 04:04:38 PM
My uncle used to use a 12v bilge pump for an aerator in his pontoon boat livewell,lots of bubbles :D
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Crab Pot on December 29, 2024, 05:34:04 PM
Off topic but in an emergency situation (battery died) my dad taught me to add ice.

The oxygen trapped in the ice will release when it melts.

Not too much ice though.

Steve
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on December 29, 2024, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Crab Pot on December 29, 2024, 05:34:04 PMOff topic but in an emergency situation (battery died) my dad taught me to add ice.

The oxygen trapped in the ice will release when it melts.

Not too much ice though.

Steve
Interesting. Probably works great for freshwater bait.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Crab Pot on December 30, 2024, 02:16:29 AM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on December 29, 2024, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Crab Pot on December 29, 2024, 05:34:04 PMOff topic but in an emergency situation (battery died) my dad taught me to add ice.

The oxygen trapped in the ice will release when it melts.

Not too much ice though.

Steve
Interesting. Probably works great for freshwater bait.

Hey Bait, is Short Lived, they don't care!

We were in the Pensacola north area, so brackish?

We caught a lot of Drum if that helps,

Steve 
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: oldmanjoe on December 30, 2024, 02:56:25 AM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on December 29, 2024, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Crab Pot on December 29, 2024, 05:34:04 PMOff topic but in an emergency situation (battery died) my dad taught me to add ice.

The oxygen trapped in the ice will release when it melts.

Not too much ice though.

Steve
Interesting. Probably works great for freshwater bait.
Tibe bit information
No, frozen water (ice) does not hold more oxygen than liquid water; in fact, it holds significantly less oxygen because when water freezes, most of the dissolved oxygen is expelled and pushed out into the remaining liquid water, meaning the ice itself contains very little oxygen.


Cold water, with its slow moving molecules, holds more dissolved oxygen than warm water. As water heats up, the molecules within it move faster, pushing some of the free oxygen atoms into the atmosphere.

I have a 35 gallon live well barrel that I circulate water with a bag of ice in it , because the bay water temperature is upper 70s low 80s .   The cold water slows down the bait fish metabolism .
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Gfish on December 30, 2024, 04:58:26 PM
Hmmm, slower metabolic rate, less O2 needed. Colder water holds more dissolved O2. Makes lots of sense to add ice. Only possible negative I can see might be temp acclimated baitfish being sensitive to sudden immersion in cold or warmer water.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on December 30, 2024, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: Gfish on December 30, 2024, 04:58:26 PMHmmm, slower metabolic rate, less O2 needed. Colder water holds more dissolved O2. Makes lots of sense to add ice. Only possible negative I can see might be temp acclimated baitfish being sensitive to sudden immersion in cold or warmer water.
Or desalinization.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Keta on December 30, 2024, 05:11:16 PM
Quote from: Gfish on December 30, 2024, 04:58:26 PMOnly possible negative I can see might be temp acclimated baitfish being sensitive to sudden immersion in cold or warmer water.

X2
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: jgp12000 on December 30, 2024, 06:51:40 PM
I have had minnows die in GA with too much ice maybe got too cold for them in 100 freakin' degrees :-\
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: foakes on December 30, 2024, 07:29:04 PM
Oftentimes, for me, it works to look at a situation/problem kind of backwards.

If a different aerator could be used that runs off of a USB supply —- then maybe 18V batteries could be used?

Then it would be easy —- just plug 'n play.

There is so much available these days in electronics for nearly every application —- I would be surprised if something wasn't available.

Here are a couple that I use for various tasks.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: jgp12000 on December 30, 2024, 08:31:44 PM
USB is 5VDC,maybe using a load resistor for the baby bubble box it works on 1.5-3VDC ?
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Keta on December 30, 2024, 08:54:53 PM
Most 3v DC motors will be happy running on 5v DC.

A solar cellphone battery bank/charger might work.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: jgp12000 on December 30, 2024, 10:21:04 PM
yep low current pretty much
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: foakes on December 31, 2024, 02:09:54 AM
This might work?

Best, Fred

https://www.amazon.com/Pawfly-Aerator-Electric-Rechargeable-Portable/dp/B0D1FQPNKF/ref=asc_df_B0D1FQPNKF?mcid=2b4f5284fd793f14879b4db97d06b2b5&hvocijid=18067617468690464682-B0D1FQPNKF-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18067617468690464682&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031820&hvtargid=pla-2281435180538&th=1&psc=1
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: MarkT on December 31, 2024, 03:15:07 AM
Quote from: foakes on December 31, 2024, 02:09:54 AMThis might work?

Best, Fred

https://www.amazon.com/Pawfly-Aerator-Electric-Rechargeable-Portable/dp/B0D1FQPNKF/ref=asc_df_B0D1FQPNKF?mcid=2b4f5284fd793f14879b4db97d06b2b5&hvocijid=18067617468690464682-B0D1FQPNKF-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18067617468690464682&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031820&hvtargid=pla-2281435180538&th=1&psc=1
If needed to make its battery last longer, plug it into an 18v battery with an adapter!
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: foakes on December 31, 2024, 03:22:22 AM
Yep!  Best, Fred
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: jtwill98 on December 31, 2024, 02:22:45 PM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on December 29, 2024, 02:07:19 AMThe thread title says it all. I love my dewalts but apparently nobody else does. Rigid, Makita. Whatever. But how cool would that be? D batteries suck.

You can buy an adapter (https://www.amazon.com/DKSIDKN-Charger-Adapter-Charging-Interface/dp/B0C1BSCTX7/ref=sr_1_10?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.CLDqC6Xf3DFReXY_DOwQaoGdYDgMxdtx52zbHsZ6U3mKHEylt19diZ9MKFA6f_ETOhN_FCpOZcIdlFEMb2PccBEpPUS4DVg6NDEtByEm-c2xZQl3ZTO4rkuPfQI4id83uUZfr6jzAGB6CxuLr4-ONqh0xzzEhDGW5DQhFnuWWch9d64ChVhUSplYf1yASQAZlS8SKLd523pHX3R_KfP4RN6dT5Yvc5pO3v6Gcq4Fu3TZbmY51cKBMKum5nS3sphmbKB7hECGNDpATVrXiHAcLMMzSpuU1dJZ8wRPHgqnfltW16w3pK9YwUNrb8KHyIwgyBbQ8HIRmxOHxacbzZ235e7WAIVKyduzBiy9-Ko8WZfAmFCECPYlgDxlKnpJ_1Qz.y5jCS6kFxXbGlvE_uoCVwhUOiv0Kjr0U6mrXsgMpX-g&dib_tag=se&keywords=Battery+adapter+Converters+with+USB+output&qid=1735653856&s=power-hand-tools&sr=1-10-catcorr) with USB outputs and use one of these $3 cables  (https://www.amazon.com/Eliminators-Step-Down-Converter-Batteries-Electronics/dp/B0D3L17PFR/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.CLDqC6Xf3DFReXY_DOwQaoGdYDgMxdtx52zbHsZ6U3mKHEylt19diZ9MKFA6f_ETOhN_FCpOZcIdlFEMb2PccBEpPUS4DVg6NDEtByEm-c2xZQl3ZTO4rkuPfQI4id83uUZfr6jzAGB6CxuLr4-ONqh0xzzEhDGW5DQhFnuWWch9d64ChVhUSplYf1yASQAZlS8SKLd523pHX3R_KfP4RN6dT5Yvc5pO3v6Gcq4Fu3TZbmY51cKBMKum5nS3sphmbKB7hECGNDpATVrXiHAcLMMzSpuU1dJZ8wRPHgqnfltW16w3pK9YwUNrb8KHyIwgyBbQ8HIRmxOHxacbzZ235e7WAIVKyduzBiy9-Ko8WZfAmFCECPYlgDxlKnpJ_1Qz.y5jCS6kFxXbGlvE_uoCVwhUOiv0Kjr0U6mrXsgMpX-g&dib_tag=se&keywords=Battery+adapter+Converters+with+USB+output&qid=1735653856&s=power-hand-tools&sr=1-6-catcorr)to achieve your solution. 

I'm sure you can run the aerator off of the 5V directly and I'm fairly certain you could find an old USB cable lying around (possibly from an old USB printer cable) -- cut one end off and splice it into your aerator and see if it works.

It would be best to do that before searching for a battery adapter with USB ports for desired battery.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: jtwill98 on December 31, 2024, 02:27:39 PM
I forgot to mention that there are many solutions for a 12V aerator solution on Amazon, search for this string "battery adaptors for 12v output" or similar.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Gfish on January 01, 2025, 07:29:26 PM
Quote from: Keta on December 30, 2024, 05:11:16 PM
Quote from: Gfish on December 30, 2024, 04:58:26 PMOnly possible negative I can see might be temp acclimated baitfish being sensitive to sudden immersion in cold or warmer water.

X2

Almost completely off-topic, so pardon me; but scientists use Stickleback minnows at the; "tolerate almost any water quality issue" end of the spectrum, and Rainbow trout for the; "sensitive to almost anything" end of the spectrum, to test water quality parameters for EPA purposes.
Sticklebacks might make good and hearty bait minnows and maybe cutting off the spines would make 'em even better.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Keta on January 01, 2025, 07:32:30 PM
Hatchery rainbows make good crawdad bait.
Title: Re: Invention request: a bait aerator that runs on rechargeable drill batteries
Post by: Swami805 on January 02, 2025, 01:10:01 AM
What about those small solar powered pumps for ponds. They float on the surface and gurgle water, enough to break the surface tension to get some O2 in the water. Would fit a 5 gal bucket