My drag seems to be really low even when set to full lock I can pull line easily. It has a brand new drag in it so I can't think of anything that would cause this. Can someone please help.
A couple of things. 1) drag washers are out of order. 2) the eared washer is not seated in the main gear. Either of those would cause your problem.
They are in order. It could be the eared washer. I'll have to take it apart and look. Thanks
So I took it apart today and everything was were it needed to be so I put it back together and it's still doing it
Is the star bottoming out. Have a pic?
It is. To the point im scared of rounding it off
Do you have a missing or flattened spring washer? Replace it with a 18-505 Bellville spring washers.
Is the spacer sleeve long enough?
All washers are there and idk if the sleeve is long enough. I just know what's on it. Idk what it came with originally
The spacer sleeve must stick out past the plate . When the star contacts it the more pressure on it the higher the drag.
The spacer sleeve looks like a short piece of tubing. One end is on top of the drag stack & the star wheel is against the other end.
I know what it is and what it does. Idk if its the right length for the reel or if it's shorter then it's supposed to be.
If the star wheel doesn't push on it it will not put pressure on the drag washers. It must stick out past the side plate for the star wheel to contact it. You can tell if its long enough just by looking at it with the star wheel installed. If you can't see it its to short or its missing.
It would help if you measured the drag with a scale and told us how much it was. "Seems to be really low " is hard to quantify. 3/0 Penns don't have that much drag anyway with stock washers.
Can you crank down the star? Could it be that you have stripped threads on the gear sleeve or star?
I can crank it down.
Oops sorry, someone else already gave you my suggestion.
Sal
Quote from: day0ne on June 10, 2013, 04:48:15 AM
It would help if you measured the drag with a scale and told us how much it was. "Seems to be really low " is hard to quantify. 3/0 Penns don't have that much drag anyway with stock washers.
I also have to agree. Some of the jigmaster and 3/0 reels that I've worked on have kinda weak drags. I happen to have a jigmaster, that to my surprise, has kind of strong drags. :-\
Anyway, we need a little more information....
question:
1. When you originally had the 3/0 reel, was the drag strong?...and then it became weak overtime?
2. Did you buy the reel "used" and the brakes were junk from the get go?
I'm asking these questions to assess if you have all the parts that the reel originally had? Or did someone else touch or change any parts without you knowing.
Knowing the answer to these questions can make all the difference.... ???
Got it used and the person before put in a new drag and that's all I know. I have a few Penn delmars that would stop a semi in its tracks. That's why I'm not understanding about why this thing has so little drag
Are you sure the drag washers are carbon fiber? Maybe they are just a set of old fiber drags that were greased. Is there a carbon fiber washer under the main gear? Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see.
QuoteBelieve nothing you hear and only half of what you see.
Good call ;) ;D
They look fiber and no it's the old orange one
Get yourself a new set of CF for in the gear & one under the gear & grease them with Cal's. 6-309 for in the gear. Maybe someone can chime in with the # for the under gear washer. It might be a 6-155.
Were can I get them? IV heard of people doing a 5 stack set up. Does anyone know about this set up? I also want to ad Ss double dogs and Ss gear sleve and eventually get a tib frame.
As of right now you can only have a 3+1 setup. Drag washers you can get from Scott's (MysticParts) AT has the S/S sleeve, S/S dog, & the under gear washer.Just send him a PM of what you want & give your address. He might even have the drag washers. As far as double dogging better check around this site for how its done. Its not a job for a novice. Test the water before jumping in with both feet. As your ability progresses you can modify as far as your check book can take you. Rudy
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Hold on now!
A Delmar stopping a semi in its tracks. I hope its HO scale!
I got a 14/0 that will stop a train in its tracks.
IV done double dogs on reels before. They are tricky but not hard.
How is it that you couldn't figure out the problem with your drags then. If you did double dogs before then you know where to get parts then & can make that reel stop a truck also without any help. I guess you also know there are no 5+1 drags for a 112h unless you developed them yourself. Did you also create a nonexistant problem. How about photos of your work? ::) ::) ::)
Look at the main gear and see if the insert is loose. By "insert" I mean the ring in the gear that actually touches the gear sleeve. If it is loose; that is, if you can turn it at all, you'll get the symptoms you are seeing.
Quote from: jamesnashtonbrady on June 11, 2013, 04:26:38 AM
Were can I get them? IV heard of people doing a 5 stack set up. Does anyone know about this set up? I also want to ad Ss double dogs and Ss gear sleve and eventually get a tib frame.
I am hoping to have a 5+1 drag stack in a couple of weeks. I will be testing it in the next couple of weeks to see what it can handle, or what the steel gears can handle.
Bryan, like I said befor on the 5+ 1 config. Video of the testing ::) ::) just make sure to wear goggles and a Kevlar suit :D
Quote from: jamesnashtonbrady on June 11, 2013, 01:46:20 AM
Got it used and the person before put in a new drag and that's all I know. I have a few Penn delmars that would stop a semi in its tracks. That's why I'm not understanding about why this thing has so little drag
Ahh, there you go...
If you got it used and the other guy tinkered with it....now you got to pay closer attention to the other parts like the spacer sleeve as the other poster recommended. Did the other guy put back the right one? Is it long enough?
Quote from: jamesnashtonbrady on June 11, 2013, 02:41:27 AM
They look fiber and no it's the old orange one
That already tells me that the drags need changing. You can either go with the CF ones or the HT-100 drags...same thing, both CF.