chrome removal

Started by Topshot, January 15, 2015, 01:13:34 AM

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Topshot

Has anybody ever had luck stripping chrome pieces from penn reels. Any method other then sanding or blasting
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Michael Baughman

Tightlines667

You might try coating the chrimed pieces in a strong rust remover gel (OSPHO), and let it sit well past the recommended time.  This will certainly loosen up any older chrome, which can easily be removed with a brass/wire wheel on a drill or benchtop grinder.  You msy be able to find sum chrome stripping product at an autoparts store, or talk to someone who works in an auto body shop for other suggestiins.   
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Topshot

Quote from: Tightlines666 on January 15, 2015, 02:16:54 AM
You might try coating the chrimed pieces in a strong rust remover gel (OSPHO), and let it sit well past the recommended time.  This will certainly loosen up any older chrome, which can easily be removed with a brass/wire wheel on a drill or benchtop grinder.  You msy be able to find sum chrome stripping product at an autoparts store, or talk to someone who works in an auto body shop for other suggestiins.   
Thanks man. I'm working on a 14/0 that I got a really good deal on. But the chrome is pretty much toast. I really want to try out the super chrome powder coat from primatic powders. Its suppose to be the closest thing to rechroming
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Michael Baughman

Tightlines667

Try the product out on a small sample piece first.
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fIsHsTiiCkS

Love to see pics of the powder coating when you are done!

Topshot

Quote from: Tightlines666 on January 15, 2015, 02:29:47 AM
Try the product out on a small sample piece first.
Ill test it put on a harness lug. Cheapest part to replace if something goes wrong lol
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Michael Baughman

Topshot

Quote from: fIsHsTiiCkS on January 15, 2015, 03:23:10 AM
Love to see pics of the powder coating when you are done!
Definitely bud. Might be a nice way to rejuvenate some chrome parts for people. We all know new chrome pieces are pretty darn expensive, especially larger senator plate rings. And if done right it should have some good corrosion protection properties
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Michael Baughman

borchcl

Plating is an electro-chemical process and in most cases, plating is removed by reversing the process. One should be able to find small shops that cater to motorcycle custom shops etc. who may be interested in doing the small lots we reel guys would likely have.

Topshot

Quote from: borchcl on January 15, 2015, 03:36:02 AM
Plating is an electro-chemical process and in most cases, plating is removed by reversing the process. One should be able to find small shops that cater to motorcycle custom shops etc. who may be interested in doing the small lots we reel guys would likely have.
You know to be completely honest I tried to reverse elctro plate it myself. I used an old plastic tub, I then mixed up a chemical bath using sodium hydroxide as the acid solution, a lead plate on one side connected to the negative and a chrome part connected to the positive using a copper wire. And all that happen was a lot of bubbles Hahaha. Maybe I did something wrong. It would definitely have to be a good sized batch of parts to make taking to a chrome shop worth while. Chrome plating is expensive thses days
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Michael Baughman

jurelometer

Quote from: Topshot on January 15, 2015, 02:25:02 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on January 15, 2015, 02:16:54 AM
You might try coating the chrimed pieces in a strong rust remover gel (OSPHO), and let it sit well past the recommended time.  This will certainly loosen up any older chrome, which can easily be removed with a brass/wire wheel on a drill or benchtop grinder.  You msy be able to find sum chrome stripping product at an autoparts store, or talk to someone who works in an auto body shop for other suggestiins.   
Thanks man. I'm working on a 14/0 that I got a really good deal on. But the chrome is pretty much toast. I really want to try out the super chrome powder coat from primatic powders. Its suppose to be the closest thing to rechroming
The Prismatic superchrome- looks more like a polished aluminum.  But it requires a clear coat on top. especially for marine use.  After the clear coat it looks more like a shiny gray.  At least when I do it.  Nice, but nothing near a chrome look.

If I can find a part painted with superchrome, I will post a photo. 

BTW  On the reels that I cleaned, the chrome sandblasted of the brass quite easily.   Make sure you do a long outgas bake  and clean the parts afterwards.  Even a fingerprint will cause a defect in the paint.  Chrome style finishes are the worst for showing defects.

-J

jurelometer

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Quote from: jurelometer on January 15, 2015, 06:52:52 AM
Quote from: Topshot on January 15, 2015, 02:25:02 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on January 15, 2015, 02:16:54 AM
You might try coating the chrimed pieces in a strong rust remover gel (OSPHO), and let it sit well past the recommended time.  This will certainly loosen up any older chrome, which can easily be removed with a brass/wire wheel on a drill or benchtop grinder.  You msy be able to find sum chrome stripping product at an autoparts store, or talk to someone who works in an auto body shop for other suggestiins.  

Thanks man. I'm working on a 14/0 that I got a really good deal on. But the chrome is pretty much toast. I really want to try out the super chrome powder coat from primatic powders. Its suppose to be the closest thing to rechroming
The Prismatic superchrome- looks more like a polished aluminum.  But it requires a clear coat on top. especially for marine use.  After the clear coat it looks more like a shiny gray.  At least when I do it.  Nice, but nothing near a chrome look.

If I can find a part painted with superchrome, I will post a photo.  

BTW  On the reels that I cleaned, the chrome sandblasted of the brass quite easily.   Make sure you do a long outgas bake  and clean the parts afterwards.  Even a fingerprint will cause a defect in the paint.  Chrome style finishes are the worst for showing defects.

-J


Just looked at the Prismatic web site.  Their sample photo for super chrome is pretty accurate-   The customer photos are too- also notice that the finish has a bit of orange peel.  You might want to consider some other colors too.

day0ne

Just go to a chrome shop and have them strip it for you.
David


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foakes

#12
Yep,

DayOne is right.

Any chrome shop can strip your parts -- and even re-chrome them if you wish.

Any time a part is re-chromed -- it must be stripped first anyway.  And a shop will do it quickly, professionally, and safely.

A hint:

Shop around for a shop by going in person to a few different ones.  Show up towards the end of the work day (4:00 - 5:00).

Bring in your parts in a box, cleaned and ready to strip -- have cash in your pocket.

Try to get to know the manager or someone there who may want to make a little money on the side -- or who also is a fisherman.  

Offer to pay cash, or work out a trade agreement for some fishing gear or service work on their old reels.

You would be surprised how easily this can be done, if you get the right shop and right individual to talk to.

Many times, the shop will just throw it in with another batch of parts -- and charge little or nothing -- or just a little cash on the side -- stripping is the easy part of chrome plating -- not much to it.

If you know a body shop -- ask them who they use, get the name of the person to talk to -- and show up saying a good friend of mine -- "so and so" over at Acme Body Works said you would take care of a couple of little jobs for me.  

Best,

Fred

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Alvaman

I know this is an older thread, but I had the idea once to replate my posts and rings from penn reels but easier said then done. The process is called electro plating  and an adjustable power supply is needed. I am fortunate enough in that there is an electro plating supply store locally. They wanted a small fortune for one of the machines, but my son who is in computers indicated the equipment is the same as they used in school for testing purposes and when checking on the internet I was able to purchase one at a very reasonable price. That is only  part of the story.  To replate something, you must first removed the old plating. This is done by reversing the polarity on the power supply and the proper stripping solution. Plating does  not fill in any voids or scratches. The item to be plated, after stripping must be cleaned then plated with copper and buffed which removes any imperfections  The plating and color you see is actually nickel. This is the next step After the coating of nickel the  item must be buffed and polished again.  i am advised chrome   has no color it is just a hard finish which can be replaced with a coating of lacquer or epoxy.  The phrase triple chrome , means, copper, nickel and chrome. the whole job is very labor intensive thusI still have my rings and posts in a box.
one time I took some mitchell 300 bail wires into a lamp shop which advertised plating, They wanted $6.00 a piece to plate them and at the time new wires were only $7.00
I live in Florida and chrome plating is illegal in the state due to the chemicals  used.
There is a system called brush  plating which does not involve tanks of chemicals.
A tool is used which looks like a large felt tipped pen with two wires coming  out of the handle. These are used to attach to the variable power supply and the tip of the tool is then dipped into the chemical solution mixture and then brushed on the intended object. There are no brush marks created. This method can be used to plate gold and silver or other metals.  It is the same method that is used to plate the lettering on automobiles which are  usually chrome color and changed to gold.
I have all the equipment necessary, but do not have the time.   Do a search on the internet and you should find all the information needed