Identify electric motor attached to Penn 12/0

Started by Krabill, March 15, 2017, 10:04:48 PM

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Krabill

Hi All, first post and coming to the experts here.  Can anyone identify this electric drive that is attached to a penn 12/0?  The only thing I know is that it is 24v.  I emailed Fish Winch and they say its not theirs, I then emailed LP and got this response."Nope, not one of ours.  Darin Lindgren said he thinks he's seen one before.  Believe it was called "Kip" reel. Sorry I don't have any more info."  I googled "KIP" and got nothing.

Any ideas?  I am looking for a daytime deep drop reel for swords in the Northeast and cant afford any of the "real" ones I should be buying, This setup might be in my price range though.

Thanks in advance.

Bryan Young

Don't know who made it but if it works, there is no need to spend big bucks.
:D I talk with every part I send out and each reel I repair so that they perform at the top of their game. :D

STRIPER LOU

It looks like one of the many commercial  gear motor drives from Uxcell,  Bemonoc, Hub City, Jameco, or one of those types of companies. If you could find the manufacturer or a similar drive, I doubt if it would cost you a Hundred bucks to build a complete unit.
A mounting bracket, a good control switch, similar to one from a power winch and a couple 12V batteries wired in series would give 24VDC required to run the motor.

You might consider checking the internet and maybe you'll get lucky. Here's a link. This is probably not exactly what you need but it will give you an idea of what you should be looking for. I built one of these several years ago but it was a monster and ran on 110v. Much different then what your looking for but the principal is the same.


Good luck,  ..  Lou

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Krabill

Thanks for the info so far. 

On the 24V.  I read up on how the LP hooks to a standard boat battery but then need a single separate battery to drive the 24v.  Is there anyway I could just connect this to my current system?  I am running 3 battery's, 1 for each outboard and another house battery.  Do I really need to have another battery totally away from my boat system to get 24V?  Total newbie to this and learning, thanks all.

I do not have 110v on the boat either

STRIPER LOU

You wouldn't want 110v. The one I built was for a totally different scenario. I was just noting the fact that the basic principal is the same. I believe the 24vdc motor would be a high torque type and not familiar with anything other then 2 12Volt batteries in series would probably be sufficient to run it at 24V in a boat.

I'm sure if you Google it there's plenty of info available. I haven't played with this stuff since my Amateur Radio days and don't think the basic's have changed much but there's definitely a lot more advanced goodies to choose from now.

......................Lou

Check out Fish Winch electric fish reel motors. (12 or 24V) Starting at $299.00

day0ne

There is a good chance that it is home made. How do you know it's 24v? I fished a snapper boat one time that the electric reels were made out of airplane ammo track motors.
David


"Lately it occurs to me: What a long, strange trip it's been." - R. Hunter

Krabill

#6
Current owner told me its 24v and that he paid 1200$ for it 10 years ago and it has only lightly be used since.  Was hoping it may have been a brand name.  If home built it looks fairly well done.  I would also hope to be spending a small fraction of that cost now,

Reason I was also asking about 24v wiring is when I read the Lindgren wiring instructions it says if using two 12v batteries one must be a slave and not hooked up to the boat ground.  Would be nice to just use my standard boat wiring and not have to use a special slave battery.  This reel has the same 4 prong hubbell plug as the LP does

https://www.lindgren-pitman.com/PDFs/S3000.pdf

Quote from that PDF link:

Auxiliary 12 Volt Battery: (Slave)
Rated @ 40 - 90 Amp Hour
Do Not ground this battery to ship or power
other accessories from this battery. This
battery must not be connected to any other
equipment or electronics.
NOTE: A separate "Slave Battery" is required
for each reel in a multi-reel setup.


The S-3000 is equipped with a four conductor cord and
a Hubbell #2421 four prong plug. Typically a Hubbell
#2420A receptacle is used in an outlet box with a cover
plate. Connected to this receptacle are the wires from
the batteries. Two wires from the ships battery and the
other two from a slave battery. This slave battery is
used only for the electric reel. When the electric reel is
plugged into the receptacle, this completes a parallel
circuit between the ships battery and the slave battery
allowing the slave battery to be charged while the engine
is running. When the reel is switched to the run position,
the slave battery is put into series with the ships battery.
This enables 24 volts to be sent to the electric reel.
It is very important to pay attention to the color
coding of the wires and lettering on the plug or
receptacle. Please follow the directions closely. Done
properly, the S-3000 electric reel will run adequately on
a vessel with only a 12 volt electrical system.