Winding machines for reels , what do you have

[Lunker Larry]

This works for me. Bolt with old drag washers and lock washer gives me tension when putting line on and easily removed to put full spool on to respool.

[oldmanjoe]

This works for me. Bolt with old drag washers and lock washer gives me tension when putting line on and easily removed to put full spool on to respool.

I like this ,Simple design . It looks like you have potential  3 drag systems for tensioning 

[oldmanjoe]

Cool.
Joe, when you're on a quest, you don't mess around.

   Aren't you the same way ?

[boon]

I would like to hear more about ,in-line drag solutions for spooling that seem like a good idea.
  I will ask , what the difference when the line goes through the tip top and the guides as far as abrading the line under drag .  Real question , just sharing ideas . 

The in-line solutions I have seen involve threading the line around several drums/bobbins in such a way that the line does not slide, rather the drums/bobbins rotate and have their own small drag systems. This way there is no tension on the fill spool other than enough to pull line from it.

As to the difference between the guides and some dowels... guides (at least good ones!!) are made from extremely hard, smooth material, intended to minimise friction as much as possible. In the example of a zig-zag board, the dowels are intended to add friction. I would guess that if you spooled braid (especially a coarser, 4 strand braid) under heavy drag and ran it around a soft pine dowel you would either saw through the dowel or it would get so hot it broke the braid.

[oldmanjoe]

I would like to hear more about ,in-line drag solutions for spooling that seem like a good idea.
  I will ask , what the difference when the line goes through the tip top and the guides as far as abrading the line under drag .  Real question , just sharing ideas . 

The in-line solutions I have seen involve threading the line around several drums/bobbins in such a way that the line does not slide, rather the drums/bobbins rotate and have their own small drag systems. This way there is no tension on the fill spool other than enough to pull line from it.

As to the difference between the guides and some dowels... guides (at least good ones!!) are made from extremely hard, smooth material, intended to minimise friction as much as possible. In the example of a zig-zag board, the dowels are intended to add friction. I would guess that if you spooled braid (especially a coarser, 4 strand braid) under heavy drag and ran it around a soft pine dowel you would either saw through the dowel or it would get so hot it broke the braid.

Valid point , I can see the wooden dowel grooving with real high drag .  Got me thinking , I have some wind chime tubes that fit over the dowel loose enough to act as a bearing .         I see another test coming .

[oldmanjoe]

Have time for more testing , but a little more about the concept of why the pulley is ahead of the reel by 52 inches .


You may know the importance of fleet angles, but do you know the best ways to correct them? Cris Seidenather, managing director of Lebus International Engineers, explains how...
When spooling wire rope onto a drum, it is necessary for the rope to come onto the drum at a very slight angle, just enough to encourage each wrap to sit tidily next to the previous wrap, and for each layer to ride cleanly onto the layer beneath.
In fact, apart from the design of the drum itself, this angle – the fleet angle – is the most significant factor in the behaviour of a spooling system.       More here .       https://www.cranebriefing.com/news/the-importance-of-fleet-angles-and-how-to-fix-them/1082343.article
Another site   https://liftingsolutions.ingersollrand.com/en-us/winch-selection-support/fleet-angle-calculations

And the easy calculator  to use :https://www.wengercorp.com/irigging/fleet.php

The test today were set the base wrap , than let it wind itself . Stopped a couple times to fix a cross over .  For the most part you can see it is self leveling to build the first third of the spool .
This is the start with adjustment made when I came to the arbor knot

This one is just let it run and do it`s owen thing . Had to hold the reel steady .

This one is the start of the second third of the spool . I did not hold the reel steady and the line did jumped a few times ,still has 23 pounds of drag coming off the supply spool.  You will see toward the end the reel drag is giving up .

[oldmanjoe]

  One more , stripping the line off the reel in free spool that the line was set at 23 pounds.
Look how clean it comes off .