alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial Ferrule placement???
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« on: December 30, 2010, 09:53:47 AM »

Okay, Bryan.

Here's your first question.
I have a fiberglass salmon rod [8'10"] that I want to make a 2-piece rod. I use the rod for surf fishing and will use it for tossing light surface bait and jigs, all with 20# line. Does it matter where I put the ferrule set so it will fit in my truck? I've never had rod sections separate on me. I have no trouble with my 7 foot rods going in the bed diagonally. What does the rod-man recommend?

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Rob
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2010, 06:56:23 PM »

Yo Rob,
I'm not a rod expert, but I know a little about trucks.... and you obviously need a bigger truck. I think you would be stylin' in a new F350...

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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2010, 11:34:50 PM »

I agree with the truck.  But not just a F350, it has to be a diesel (manly power and can also run on veggie oil), crew cab, and long bed.  That way you can transport a 12' rod without any problems in the body of the truck. 

Ferrule placement...I would recommend the closest to the butt as possible especially since you will not have an integraded ferrule.  By placing the ferrule closest to the butt, it doesn't change the tip rod action, and will provide additional backbone to the butt section of the rod.
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2010, 07:38:20 AM »

Okay, a long-bed, veggie oil diesel F350 it is, but no duallies. Undecided Duallies are not stylin'! Grin Grin 
I saw American Tackle Co reinforced brass ferrules at Mud Hole and was going to use those unless there's something better.

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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2010, 02:39:22 PM »

That's as good as it gets unless you build one up from an old fishing rod and reforce it with additional fiberglass and flexible resins.

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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2010, 03:27:20 PM »

Thanks for the info, Bryan. The custom rod was picked up at the builder's estate sale for basically nothing as there was a good reel attached to it. So it's not a major loss if it doesn't work out, although if there's a really nice fish at the other end of the line, I will say naughty words. I finished building a bamboo fly rod last month so I have a vague idea of what to do.
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2010, 04:04:28 PM »

Hi Rob,

I use my surf rack to transport my long rods when traveling with my little toyota corolla.  Most of my rods are single piece because I do not like any joint that can crack or change the action of the blank.

Good luck on the conversion.  Use tip cement.  Epoxy will make it difficult if you need to change the ferrule out.  Apply tip cement to the rod as you would with a tip.  Then heat the ferrule and slide the ferrule while twisting the ferrule as it slides down/up the blank.  The tip portion, I also cut and drop pieces of tip cement in the tube, and follow the same process.

Hope this helps.

Ha0uli Makahiki Hou,
Bryan
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2010, 04:47:32 PM »

Aloha, Bryan -
Thanks for the tip on cement for the ferrule. I've got a stick of tip glue and I'll definitely use that instead of epoxy. I haven't had a surf rack in about 40 years Cool and I put my long rods out the back sliding window of the truck with the butt on the dash. Undecided   I need a better way for the long trips, therefore the conversion. Everything else is 6-7 foot one piece, so no worries there.
Mahalo friend,
Rob
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2011, 10:09:56 AM »

certainly the closer to the butt the better,too far up the rod will change the action of a rod,especially the lighter ones.also, be careful with the heat when using the ferrule cement as not to soften the glass of the rod.I have seen that done a few times.Good call on mud hole for parts,they seem to have one of the better selections for all rodbuilding supplies.
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