"stoplight" rigging

Started by alantani, May 29, 2016, 05:35:09 PM

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alantani

"stoplight" rigging

penn makes a beautiful reel calls a fathom 60 two speed lever drag.  joey went through it, did a full service and then i installed a 5/0 grip and spooled it up.  the customer wanted 450 yards of 100 pound JB hollow and an 80 pound mono topshot that was spliced in.  not a problem.  remember this old photo?  we have a winding station!



i still have the same set up, but i added a little more inventory.



been dialing things in for the last 6 months, and i think i'm pretty well set.  for this particular reel, i put a double layer of flex wrap around the arbor and smeared a light coat of yamaha grease on the sides of the spool.  then i took some red 100# JB hollow, mounted it to the line tensioner and set the tension to a smooth 15 pounds.  then i spooled up 100 yards.



next, i spliced in some 100# JB hollow in yellow, and spooled up another 100 yards.  



now 100 yards of 100# green JB hollow.



150 yards of 100# white JB hollow for a total of 450 yards.





and finally 50 yards of 80# berkely big game.  nice looking serve, huh!!!  i set the drag to 20 pounds at strike and now we're all set!







for lack of a better name, i'm going to call this "stoplight" rigging.  it's pretty simple.  it's a double layer of flex wrap with some yamaha grease on the sides of the spool.  the spectra is loaded under 50 to 75% of your anticipated drag setting.  any mono or fluoro is then loaded under 25% of the anticipated drag setting.  the idea here is that a guy can hit the green and know that he has 300 yards left.  when he hits the yellow, he has 200 yards left and needs to start paying attention.  if he hits the red, he's got 100 yards and is going to have to make some quick decisions.  i know guys have marked their lines before, but in the heat of the battle, i think these marks can be easy to miss.  this type of rigging is as obvious as it gets.  unless it's pitch dark, you can't miss green, yellow and red, and you can't NOT know what it means.  

it's VERY time consuming to do this.  the yellow and red are a little sticky and can be tedious to splice.  i use a 6 foot section of 27 pound stainless steel single strand leader material that is folded in half to do all my rigging.  i've chosen this because this is what the average guy will use.  most guys will not be able to afford a $100 needle kit.  as far as the serve goes, i have all the fancy stuff.  for most connections, i just use a modified tony pena with a four turn uni on the mono side and then 6 turns up and 10 turns down on the spectra side.  it cinches up beautifully!  

i would love to see this become the new standard!

alan
send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!

Shark Hunter

Wow!
That is a great looking serve. I need to learn how to do that with my Everols.
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alantani

well, don't expect to see this offered by your local tackle shop.  it's a hellava lot of work!!!!!!!  let's just hope that jack appreciates it when he sees the bill!   ;D
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David Hall

Very nice, straight forward concept makes a ton of sense even I would have trouble forgetting what's going on with that code.

whalebreath

An innovative use for Flexwrap-Thanks for the tip!

RowdyW

I've done that on a few of my reels for about 5 years now except I have been using all mono.

erikpowell

The Stoplight Rigging... makes good sense, great setup, very nicely done Alan!

johndtuttle

Gotta say I like the looks of that serve. Very well done.  ;)

Did you use a jig and pre-tension the mono?

alantani

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Quote from: johndtuttle on May 29, 2016, 07:38:03 PM

Did you use a jig and pre-tension the mono?




i put it on the blackwater jig shown above and i leaned on it as hard as i possibly could.  it's under tension, but not as much as i would like.  the bowstring server is heavy duty beiter profi.  they're really nice and do a great job.  you can wind the serve with ALOT of tension.   you know it's good when the spectra turns "clear."

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/beiter-winder-profi-x-heavy-string-server.html
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natch!

 When Jack sees the bill?!! Yikes! Saratoga CA has among the highest labor rates in the world!
Seriously though, I love this idea and am proud to be the owner of the first example. Thanks, Alan.

Here in San Francisco many seem to see a red light as a signal to proceed with less caution. I'm not one of those. If I start to see red showing on this reel I'll immediately hand it off to Alan. I don't want to be responsible for losing his handiwork.

 Jack

johndtuttle

Quote from: alantani on May 29, 2016, 07:58:22 PM
Quote from: johndtuttle on May 29, 2016, 07:38:03 PM

Did you use a jig and pre-tension the mono?




i put it on the blackwater jig shown above and i leaned on it as hard as i possibly could.  it's under tension, but not as much as i would like.  the bowstring server is heavy duty beiter profi.  they're really nice and do a great job.  you can wind the serve with ALOT of tension.   you know it's good when the spectra turns "clear."

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/beiter-winder-profi-x-heavy-string-server.html

Yep, that's the idear  ;). Went round and round with guys back in the day with their "nail nub" serves that they thought were great...and slipped in a long fight on big fish. If the mono is not pre-stretched then it creeps under cyclic loads.

Looks like you did a beautiful job. :)

steelfish

Quote from: alantani on May 29, 2016, 05:35:09 PM

i would love to see this become the new standard!

we have many colored braid lines, that change color every 10ft, every 5ft, etc. I see this stoplight rigging color method with good chances to be used by those colored braid lines.

sounds not too hard to be offered on normal 300yds spools or 500yds spools, 100yd red which comes first, then 100yds of yellow and the rest on your favorite color.



The Baja Guy

Tiddlerbasher

I just wish that there were fish, in the UK, that demanded that kind of rigging :'(

MarkT

Nice idea but isn't the point of the spool line capacity rigs to know when you're 1/3, 2/3 down in the spool?  I don't see the stoplight rigging being all that  useful in a reel with those markings.
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