Harnell Unlimited rod question ?

[54bullseye]

Well this one once had a decal but this is all that's left !!  John Taylor

[theswimmer]

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[theswimmer]

Ok here we go as far as what I believe are dates.
As far as I know all these rods are unrestored , a couple have had minor repairs.
The first pic is a 2580  7'2" 80 lb late production Venice.
Second is an Official Three Six 7" pier and bait rod ,Mid 50's production.
In the same pic is a 8'  7 wt fly rod from the early 70's.
Next is a 7' noodle unmarked , no label but verified as factory. Probably mid 50's.
Bottom,same pic is the 80lbr. Early 70's I think.
#4 is the butt section of the 80lb.

Next post , top is fly rod tip section with unlabeled noodle rod below, by the quality of the work on the noodle , factory , unrestored.
Second pic is the noodle above with the Official Three Six on the bottom.
#3 is a family pic.
All are unrestored , original guides and thread.
I have more just these were easy.
My garage is worse than Alan's.
So there is a little sample of thread work over the years at Harnell.

[theswimmer]

john,
I know I have a 130 lb somewhere with the same shape fore grip, I belive it was wood however.

[54bullseye]

Here is my stash of Harnells and it been a few years in the making ! The one with the 16/0 Senator I just got and it's a retied 117 lb rod.  The next four are original either 117s or 130s without getting specific  !  Next 5 are smaller original rods the squidder with the long butt is cool !!! The monster with the solid aluminum bent butt was a custom by Biscayne rods in Florida that one has a beautiful set of Tycoon roller guides on it and I think unfished !!! Next one with dark wood butt is something I think someone just made to look like a Harnell only paid $50 for it and guides are worth that. Then the Unlimited in question which I am pretty sure was either a blank some one put together or a redo.   John Taylor

PS you should be able to click on pics to blowem up.

[theswimmer]

Very nice!
I see we have the same problem.......
John is the rod in pic #2 5th from the bottom marked or labeled and if so what is the mark?
Thanks,
Jonathan

[droppedit]

Looks like you'll need a larger picnic table next year. It's like a museum at your house.

Dave

[theswimmer]

In pic three , the green and yellow , 5th from the top is the color green I was talking about.

[54bullseye]

Very nice!
I see we have the same problem.......
John is the rod in pic #2 5th from the bottom marked or labeled and if so what is the mark?
Thanks,
Jonathan

Here is the label

[54bullseye]

In pic three , the green and yellow , 5th from the top is the color green I was talking about.

Yeah those two green wrapped rods are Royals but notice the little yellow trim band in the middle of the under wrap they must have started that later in production because the picture in the 1954 catalog of the "Royal Family" showed just green no trim band. 

Okay I think I have figured out exactly what my rod is. Here me out then I am putting this to rest and am gonna go out and work in garden !!!

I measured my tip and overall it's 5' 3" and with the butt in place it measures 6' 10" overall.  Now the Royal rods specs claim there tips are 5' 6" which with butt in place would make overall length 7' 1" different than mine !!!  So on page 13 of the 1954 catalog they have there Kit Rods and on bottom of page last rod is a "585 K Deluxe rod kit" for size 39 to 54 thread linen. Overall length with butt is 6' 10" just the same as mine. That would explain the non factory wrap job.  I am going with that !!!! Lol !!! I will most likely have Dave rewrap it with factory colors as best as he can or possibly just leave it be !    John Taylor

[54bullseye]

One last thing the 1954 and 55 catalogs show rod kits the 1957 doesn't so if it is indeed a kit rod those would be approximate dates of my rod. Can't wait to peek under felt on grip.    John Taylor

[oc1]

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[54bullseye]

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Steve both those are 130s one is original and one redone by Dave. I don't have the redone rod any more.   John

[theswimmer]

Very nice!
I see we have the same problem.......
John is the rod in pic #2 5th from the bottom marked or labeled and if so what is the mark?
Thanks,
Jonathan

Here is the label

Ohhh Very Nice.
Thats what I was looking for.
Thanks John. I have a line on repro Harnell fishes labels if you are interested......
Funny I just came in from the garden

Best, JT

[theswimmer]

In pic three , the green and yellow , 5th from the top is the color green I was talking about.

Yeah those two green wrapped rods are Royals but notice the little yellow trim band in the middle of the under wrap they must have started that later in production because the picture in the 1954 catalog of the "Royal Family" showed just green no trim band.  

Okay I think I have figured out exactly what my rod is. Here me out then I am putting this to rest and am gonna go out and work in garden !!!

I measured my tip and overall it's 5' 3" and with the butt in place it measures 6' 10" overall.  Now the Royal rods specs claim there tips are 5' 6" which with butt in place would make overall length 7' 1" different than mine !!!  So on page 13 of the 1954 catalog they have there Kit Rods and on bottom of page last rod is a "585 K Deluxe rod kit" for size 39 to 54 thread linen. Overall length with butt is 6' 10" just the same as mine. That would explain the non factory wrap job.  I am going with that !!!! Lol !!! I will most likely have Dave rewrap it with factory colors as best as he can or possibly just leave it be !    John Taylor

I would take it fishing!
No safe queens at my house.

Best,
JT