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« on: September 23, 2018, 05:53:32 AM »

I just got done checking this kit and it did very well.

Basically this would be your layout, (5) Carbon Fiber and (5) metal washers

The new Carbon Fiber washers are 1.40mm in thickness

I don't remember the size of the older Keyed washers, these are 1.90mm

and the last Thick washer on top is 4.90mm

Adam mentioned some were having minor issues with the height of the stack and wanted to make adjustments...one of the reason he has me as well to check them out.
All fit in nicely, plenty of travel with the star and starts very soft. Mine is increasing a little quick, but I'm sure it's related to the older gear sleeve, those are a little thicker than the custom SS

I did some pulling tests, while  holding the reel in my hands at differenty point.
 Drags felt a little rough at first, but got much smoother as I kept pulling.
I pushed it to around 50lb and decided that was good enough.


Carbon Fiber washers are much thicker and appear to be of a better quality, I don't believe these would fail under normal conditions.


I'm also showing my special tool to set the washers in

Adam did a good job making these washers really snug...that is how you would want them.
You will not find a better tool to push them in Smiley, I use my chopsticks a lot when working on reels, especially bearings.


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Sal




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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2018, 06:27:43 AM »

Looks great Adam and Sal!
Can't wait to try mine out!
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2018, 08:09:45 AM »

Nice grouper digger you got there, Sal!
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2018, 08:29:23 AM »

Sal: That special tool is in use in my repertoire of tools on my bench also, It has many uses. Cool Grin Thanks for sharing this.............................Joe
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2018, 11:20:55 AM »

Thank Sal!  That looks great.

The thin metal washers went from .060" to .074", and I increased the thick metal washer from .135" to .188"  A number of kits, especially on the last run needed to be shimmed with extra metal washers to bring the stack to the correct height.  I made the changes to address this, and will be using this as the standard for all the kits from now on. 

I will be filling orders for new kits first, and then I will have spare washer sets available.  As with all of my kits, it the ears failed or the washer came apart I will replace it at no charge.  These are a wear item, so I dont cover normal wear under that, but replacement cf washers will be available for purchase.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2018, 11:37:50 AM »

Adam, Sal,
Do you recommend using Cal's on these kits or running them dry?
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2018, 12:08:40 PM »

I always use Cals on my kits.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2018, 12:13:42 PM »

I always use Cals on my kits.

Adam,
That's what I figured.
The reason I'm asking is because of the eared carbon washers.
Wondering if that affects it in any way.
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2018, 12:51:42 PM »

Same here Chad, all reel I have get Cals, even the tiny washers.

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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2018, 01:20:42 PM »

Great work fellas...really nice kit! Cool
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2018, 02:45:21 PM »

Same here Chad, all reel I have get Cals, even the tiny washers.

Sal

Thank you Sal!
I figured as much, just thought I'd check.  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2018, 04:20:03 PM »

Great Work Fellas. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2018, 05:04:04 PM »

Always enjoy reading about these drag threads, great work!
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2018, 07:56:08 PM »

I have the older insert kit and in fact I had to use extra washers to compensate for the height. I did try to get a max drag on the reel. I tightened the star down good and got a whopping 79lbs. Iíve caught 2 sharks on this set up, not big sharks but nice enough and I have to say the reel is great overall with the drag kit. Thereís a sense of security fishing with the reel.. Definitely definitely hard to fish high drag haha. VERY!!
Itís good to know the new drag discs are much more snugg and stronger as mines (first gen) already show wear..
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2018, 12:17:45 PM »

Adam can attest that I have purchased and installed many of his insert kits. I have them in reels all over the NW of Florida and S Alabama.

When I noticed the drag washers ears wearing off I started puting them in dry. None of them have come back with a drag washer problem using them dry.  Penn put them in dry a lot longer than we have used them wet.

With the new thicker drag washers that eliminated the problems of the thinner greased washers.
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