14-99 spring

[Crow]

A question for you fellas that have had more reels apart, than I have. Are there any springs used (coil type) that are longer than the 14-99 ? Or , will I have to wind my own, if I want a longer , stiffer spring ?

[RowdyW]

I don't know of any in a Penn reel. To long & more pressure might cause it to buckle losing any advantage unless it is made of thicker ss wire. JMO.           Rudy

[Crow]

OK, Thanks , Rudy ! A little longer spring would *probably* be ok, for me, as it's about "half covered" (captive) in a "pocket", but I can always put a small "block" of plastic  In the "pocket", under the spring...that will do what I need to do.  Thanks again !

[RowdyW]

OK, Thanks , Rudy ! A little longer spring would *probably* be ok, for me, as it's about "half covered" (captive) in a "pocket", but I can always put a small "block" of plastic  In the "pocket", under the spring...that will do what I need to do.  Thanks again !

How about a small piece of plastic or graphite behind the spring to increase the tension?

[George6308]

I lost the detent ball out of a FN trigger quite a few years ago. Shimmed the small spring with a small detent ball to make the length and strength need. This might work with the 14-99 spring. The roundness of the spring will hold the required detent ball in place in its hole.
Brownells has the detent balls or one might be obtained  from a local gun shop as you only need one. They also carry the detent springs however 1/16 is their smallest diameter.

[Crow]

Shimming the spring...with something, ....is probably the easiest way out. I'd tear a Bic lighter apart...I seem to remember that the spring they use is *about* the same O.D. as the dog spring....but, I don't smoke, so, no lighter ! 

[Bill B]

Try the cheaper lighter, the Bic brand springs seem a little too small.  I have a neighbor that picks up trash around our lake and he has been bringing me all the lighters he finds.  I will post some pictures of the springs when he brings the next haul of lighters....Bill

[mo65]

   We have successfully used the lighter springs in Penn reels...here's a few pics...and a facebook post discussing it.

                        https://www.facebook.com/groups/todayonthewater/search/?query=Penn%20350%20post%20by%20jeff%20shaver&epa=SEARCH_BOX

[Robert Janssen]

IIRC Bic Mini lighter springs are smaller than Bic Standard springs.

For very small springs, have a look at spring bars for wristwatches. Usually available in ten-packs at hobby type stores for a few bucks.

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[Crow]

   As luck would have it, my wife picked up a "Scripto" disposable lighter, on her walk, yesterday. When we do our "walk a bouts", we generally pick up any trash we come across, and dump it in the trash can at the park (across the street from us) on our way home. When I mentioned to her to "watch for a lighter", she said she'd just "trashed" one....so, I did a bit of "dumpster diving" . I didn't measure the spring, when I took the lighter apart...but it appears to be the same diameter, longer, and a bit "stiffer"....so I should be able to cut it to the length I need !
   Actually, if I had paid "better attention", the "stock" spring would have been able to be used, but, I had a "bit of a slip" with the Dremel

[foakes]

If, when completely servicing a Penn reel — I feel it needs a little more spring tension — usually just stretching the spring works for me.

It gives it a little more tension — plus it is contained within a spring cavity anyway.  If that doesn't work, I just install a new spring.

Most any spring will work — if it is the right size and suits the purpose.

Sometimes, if a spring is too stiff — other issues will arise over time — extra wear, catching, etc..

On some Penns that use a copper flat spring — for more tension, I just bend the strip straighter — then install it.

Daron, on the larger Senators, used the SS strips from an old windshield wiper blade.  I also have done that, after Daron's recommendation — and it works very well.

Best,

Fred

[oc1]

I believe lighter springs will rust fairly quickly, but they're easy to replace.
-steve

[Crow]

   I've stretched them , a little , too, but I need "quite a bit" of extra length.....maybe another 1/8 inch, so shimming the original, or making a longer one seems like the best option.  I plan on a stainless sleeve....and dogs, if I can get some, so they should hold up to the 'slightly' stiffer spring. As to the rust, maybe some Corrosion X grease would hold it down to a minimum ? This whole project (a 49 width 113H) is a shot in the dark, anyway.......just another chance to "tinker"

[RowdyW]

Crow, if I may ask, why do you need a longer spring in a 113h plate when you are changing the width of the reel. The 113h plates will fit on any width 113h reel without alteration. It's a bolt on operation.