Excessive spool movement

[Johne230]

I have a Symetre 4000 and the spool has developed excessive up and down movement about a 1/4". I took a look inside and dont see any worn or broken parts although I did not dis assemble the reel. I thought you might shed some light on the problem.

                                                                Thanks
                                                                  John

[Alto Mare]

Hello John, I'm not really familiar with that reel, but I would check at the crosswind area first.
Sal

[Irish Jigger]

Welcome aboard Johne230.
Which model,front or rear drag?
Spool may not be seating properly,remove and ensure it's fully seated before refitting drag knob.

[alantani]

in other words, it's the spool shaft that is moving a quarter of an inch? 

[Johne230]

in other words, it's the spool shaft that is moving a quarter of an inch? 

Yes sorry it is the spool shaft and it is a front drag

[fisher480]

Is this with the drag tight? Without the drag tight this could be normal. If the drag is tight then the ocsilllating area of the reel is the only place to look. I have seen loose screws on the mechanism. Remove the side plate and recheck. Also excessive wear in that area which I haven't seen even on my brother-in-law's abuse Symetre's.

[Cone]

With that much play you should be able to see something. Is the worm shaft moving back and forth. Check for wear on the worm and pawl make shure the shaft is secured, etc. Bob

[Johne230]

With that much play you should be able to see something. Is the worm shaft moving back and forth. Check for wear on the worm and pawl make shure the shaft is secured, etc. Bob

I will dig a little further.

[Cone]

I would probably take off the spool and remove the rotor so I could take off the sideplate. Then i would move the shaft in and out while I watched. Just a suggestion. Bob

[alantani]

there are several generations of symetre.  can you match it up to a schematic? 

http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/customer_service0/Reel_Schematics.html

[Johne230]

there are several generations of symetre.  can you match it up to a schematic? 

http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/customer_service0/Reel_Schematics.html

Alen
It is the SY4000FH

[alantani]

ok, http://fish.shimano.com/media/fishing/SAC/techdocs/en/Spinning/00SY4000FH_v1_m56577569830642076.pdf

the main shaft, key # 6514, attaches at the base somehow.  you can see the hole at the bottom of the shaft in the schematic.  that is where it came loose. i might attach to the oscillating slider, key #6370. 

[Johne230]

ok, http://fish.shimano.com/media/fishing/SAC/techdocs/en/Spinning/00SY4000FH_v1_m56577569830642076.pdf

the main shaft, key # 6514, attaches at the base somehow.  you can see the hole at the bottom of the shaft in the schematic.  that is where it came loose. i might attach to the oscillating slider, key #6370. 

Thanks Alen I checked out what you said and found that the main shaft is attached and fine. I finally broke down the whole reel and found that the bushings on the worm gear are worn and the pawl needs replacing unfortunatly parts are no longer available not even from Shimano I think that is a shame that spare parts are discontinued so soon after a reel goes out of production. I guess I will be looking for a replacement. Thanks for all your help.

[alantani]

get me some part numbers and i will see what i have. 

[Bryan Young]

John, try call Shimano again and ask for a recommendation of a shop thatay have the parts. You'll never know. There's a lot of new old stock parts out there, and the secret is finding it.