Bearing Question (part two)

Started by topwater, March 11, 2014, 05:22:26 AM

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topwater

In response to the other post. Well I have to admit, I did use a compressor to blow out the bearings and all of the other parts. I'm guessing that is bad, well I know its bad because somewhere in the basement are 3 one way clutch bearings. so I have switched to caned air. As I was blowing out the sealed bearings of the degreaser I noticed that lube/grease came out also. So, from the factory are they installing grease or oil in the bearings ???
As asked by " philaroman " what am I trying to achieve w/lube ? .....I want to get longevity with the reels, I'm afraid that the noise means that I'm getting metal to metal and damage might occur. How do I know that the drops of oil made its way to the bearings themselves ...past the covers ??

philaroman

IMO, for baitcasters:

OIL=SPEED, but provides some protection (esp., if you add a tiny drop regularly).  spool bearings get oil (the extra distance is worth it, unless you mostly jig vertically or pitch short distance -- so you replace 'em a little sooner, so what?)  thin oil gets in through the tiniest gaps -- you don't need to remove the shields or any kind of packing apparatus.  I think they get grease at the factory so they're nice & quiet, for best marketing -- not, for best performance.  some guys intentionally use ceramic & hybrid spool bearings DRY for max distance & deal with the noise/wear -- now, THAT I would NOT do for a few extra yards on the cast

GREASE=PROTECTION, but may offer enough speed, depending on function.  all other bearings don't come anywhere near spool bearing RPMs, so they get grease.  unless they have issues, I leave the factory grease alone & just clean/grease them on the outside (degreasing them may have been a mistake, -- now, you gotta' repack shielded bearings some of which are tiny...  or soak in heavy oil; spin to get the excess out; and hope it lasts)

ALL degreased bearings need the degreasing agent COMPLETELY GONE, BEFORE YOU LUBE with whatever you choose (something like WD40 will leave a residue that breaks down other lubes)  a solvent like Acetone works well; it evaporates quickly & completely; you don't need forced air, at all.

P.S., you should have kept everything in the same thread

johndtuttle

Quote from: topwater on March 11, 2014, 05:22:26 AM
In response to the other post. Well I have to admit, I did use a compressor to blow out the bearings and all of the other parts. I'm guessing that is bad, well I know its bad because somewhere in the basement are 3 one way clutch bearings. so I have switched to caned air. As I was blowing out the sealed bearings of the degreaser I noticed that lube/grease came out also. So, from the factory are they installing grease or oil in the bearings ???
As asked by " philaroman " what am I trying to achieve w/lube ? .....I want to get longevity with the reels, I'm afraid that the noise means that I'm getting metal to metal and damage might occur. How do I know that the drops of oil made its way to the bearings themselves ...past the covers ??

No worries matey we'll get you sorted.

If your goal is longevity you need to get grease in there. The shields are gonna have to come out for you to get some inside. If they have tiny clips on them you can remove the clips with a very sharp and small hook. Best to hold the bearing in something like vice grips or you'll get a hook in your thumb. If they are pressed in they will have to be destroyed to remove them. No biggee at all. Open bearing are much easier to clean in the future and if maintained are better protected without them than poorly maintained bearings with them. Shielded bearings are just a tiny bit better than open for someone that never does a thing to their reels (like most guys) which is why the manufacturers use them.

Oil as above is for *speed* and ease of application. It simply is going to transmit more noise and not last as long before needing to be re-applied but this does not mean the bearings are wearing out, it really depends on the quality of the bearing from the get go, not on the choice of lube.

The reason why bearing grease promotes longevity is due to how long it lasts, not that the bearing is somehow more protected. An Oil like Corrosion-x actively removes corrosion and reduces friction more, while it is present.

As above, try to keep your threads to a minimum so that all that you learn is in one place to benefit others that come along. If the bits and pieces get too spread around then it doesn't help others as easily. That is why we all are here. Your questions help us help others that may have the same questions ;).

topwater

Yes you are right one thread , I'm new to this forum business.
Well, if the ice ever breaks around here I can't  wait to test some reels that I fooled with.