Two more upgrades for my 501

[Marcq]

Pro Challenger 5:1 gears  and Bryan's  drag kit


I had previously upgraded  to Alan SS gear sleeve and Pro Challenger double dogs



Drag kit fits perfect Bryan


With room to spare



Spacing sleeve that comes with the 5:1 gear on the left, pretty beefy



Ready to install the transmission back in



Project completed



I get a maximum of 12lb drag, was hoping for more, compared to my 146 with the same kit, higher gear ratio ? Looks like I would have room for extra washer?
Gears are working great, line retrieve from 27" to 33"

Marc..

[Black Pearl]

12# of drag only. I thought that Sal tested with 20# of drag. I will have to check with Sal about that.

[erikpowell]

Yeah, I've taken my 501 down numerous times, same setup, I haven't been able to hit 20lbs yet either...
Still maxing out at 12-14lbs.
I'm thinking maybe a little more leverage with a bigger star??

[Black Pearl]

We just have to wait until Sal is back online to sort that out.

[Lensters]

Use a 505 star and gear sleeve then add spacer washers to the top of the drag stack and I'll guarantee you'll be able to lock the drag solid. 

[Shark Hunter]

Regardless of the drag numbers. That looks like an awesome build. I have all the parts except for the gears. I will be happy with 14 lbs on a 5:1 Jigmaster. That's something you won't get anywhere else!

[Bryan Young]

You may try using a stock keyed washer for the last washer to increase the height.  I got 24# from my 501.  I think Sal got 28# and then Broke the pinion gear shortly thereafter.

[erikpowell]

I thought if there's still room to spare, we're not fully optimized.. but I just haven't gotten around to swapping washer thicknesses yet.

Regardless of the drag numbers. That looks like an awesome build. I have all the parts except for the gears. I will be happy with 14 lbs on a 5:1 Jigmaster. That's something you won't get anywhere else!

But Daron, I wanna be able to swap a spool of 65lb braid on that and be ready for the stray Dogtooth or GT 

[doradoben]

Marc, are all of the washers in the same order as a 113h?

[Black Pearl]

Marcq,

Let's wait until Sal is back. His gear sets are on it way to him.

Thanks,
Alan

[Black Pearl]

Sal is out of town. He ask me to let you guy know that to use the PENN tension spring on the star.

Sal will be back next Tuesday.

[bluefish69]

Put that tension spring inside the reel to build the stack. I put them in the Newell's this way when height is needed in the stack. It will also give you slower ramp up on the drag.

Mike

[Keta]

It looks like another eared washer might fit into the gear, if so you can add 2 more drag washers in the stack.  I'd also loose the wavy spring washer and replace it with a Bellville.

If you put in more washers bend the ears down on the last eared washer so it engages the slots in the gear better.

[Marcq]

So I tried all the above advice, I'm becoming an expert at taking that thing apart

The best result I could get so far is replace the first drag washer(in the gear) with a thicker one, built the stack up with the bellville on top+ the sleeve and installing the spring washer on the exterior before the star drag. At the minimum drag setting I have a little  bit of drag(like it better this way) and a bit better max drag but nowhere near 20lb

Definitely enough room on that gear to have an extra carbontex+washer. And  a bigger star drag would help. I would be fine with 12lb at 3/4 drag setting

Marc..

[Marcq]

Just realize that the gear that I have are the custom one (thanks Alan for reminding me), they are mill deeper to accommodate two extra washer DOH!!   

No wonder I max out at 12lb

Marc..