Hex drag insert system for Senator 114H and 115.

[trond_solem]

How about a hex insert drag system for the 114H and 115 reels?

7 hex carbontex washers in the system and a belleville washer on top.
How much drag this will produce is unknown, but probably far more than we need. About 65lb?

It will fit into reels with outside accessible drags.
Cost? Don't know yet. I can make a die and punch that cuts carbontex to correct form and size in two steps. One for the outer hex, and a second step for the center hole without removing the cut hex washer from the die.

Any thoughts about this?

[Robert Janssen]

I thought someone was making these already. Sal sent me a set a while back.

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Edit: oh, sorry-- now i get it. Thats the same as the original idea that kicked off the whole thing. I dunno if anybody is making those currently, but some were in the works not too long ago.

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[Shark Hunter]

We have Hex Gears which can produce 50lbs of drag with only 4 Carbon Fiber washers. Those were from Black Pearl. Adam is making us some inserts based on the Baja drags which are quite impressive.
Sal has already tested these in a 113H. The 114H inserts are in the works.
Adam is the guy to get this done!

[trond_solem]

We have Hex Gears which can produce 50lbs of drag with only 4 Carbon Fiber washers. Those were from Black Pearl. Adam is making us some inserts based on the Baja drags which are quite impressive.
Sal has already tested these in a 113H. The 114H inserts are in the works.
Adam is the guy to get this done!

4 carbon fiber washers is probably enough. The 7 washer version is for those who can't get enough drag anyway. :-)

It's is just an idea that sprung into my mind. The number of washers is what fits into the maximum thickness insert I can make.
I don't know if I am going to make this, but I won't start up a big production anyway.
If anyone wants to have a go at it, I can supply cad files for them.

[Keta]

My materials are limited and the 114H inserts I cut where not full depth, the 113H were.

[Alto Mare]

Trond, thanks for posting your ideas, but this was already started almost 2 years ago. I do understand that things are not always easy to find, but at the moment it isn't our fault, we are still experimenting and improving. One day, the dust will settle, but that might be when I'm gone
Here is the thread, grab a cup of coffee, it's a long one:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=7710.msg66164#msg66164
By the way, I should be getting Adam's inserts for testing any day now, those should be the best to date.
Sal

[BMITCH]

Trond, thanks for posting your ideas, but this was already started almost 2 years ago. I do understand that things are not always easy to find, but at the moment it isn't our fault, we are still experimenting and improving. One day, the dust will settle, but that might be when I'm gone
Here is the thread, grab a cup of coffee, it's a long one:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=7710.msg66164#msg66164
By the way, I should be getting Adam's inserts for testing any day now, those should be the best to date.
Sal

Sal, I got three 6/0's a waitin on those inserts. Judging from Adams past efforts I don't think it will be anything less than a home run!! So stop shoveling snow and get back to testing

[trond_solem]

Trond, thanks for posting your ideas, but this was already started almost 2 years ago. I do understand that things are not always easy to find, but at the moment it isn't our fault, we are still experimenting and improving. One day, the dust will settle, but that might be when I'm gone
Here is the thread, grab a cup of coffee, it's a long one:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=7710.msg66164#msg66164
By the way, I should be getting Adam's inserts for testing any day now, those should be the best to date.
Sal

I didn't find anything on inserts there. It was mentioned, but no image of a insert anywhere.
The thread discusses hex gears. I have read that before, but I am talking about using inserts in stock steel gears to make it possible to use hex drags.

Here are a tool for cutting hex drag washers.

[fIsHsTiiCkS]

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12766.0

[Keta]

It's been talked about here many times and about 30 are in reels now.  60, 500, 113H and 114H size gears.  Adam's design is the way to go though.


http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=6967.0

[Shark Hunter]

Next!

[Bryan Young]

Hey, be nice Daron.

Trond is just trying to help...especially members in Europe that don't have easy access to the stuff we have here in the USA.

[hultis]

Keep the ideas coming, Trond! I live on the same side of the pond as you and I would love a supplier of cool Penn upgrades around the corner. I'll be going to Norway to fish this fall, btw.

Sorry for hijacking the thread.

/Christian

[Alto Mare]

I didn't find anything on inserts there. It was mentioned, but no image of a insert anywhere.
The thread discusses hex gears. I have read that before, but I am talking about using inserts in stock steel gears to make it possible to use hex drags.

Here are a tool for cutting hex drag washers.

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Sorry Trond, I gave you the wrong link.
That custom hex washer cutter looks interesting to me, could you tell me some more about it?
Does it work by applying pressure or hitting it?

Sal

[fIsHsTiiCkS]

I do like how it cuts the od and id at the same time