Is there an easy way to ID Penn Gears?

Started by foakes, April 05, 2015, 01:39:52 AM

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foakes

The larger parts for Penns are all in numbered bins -- such as rings, stands, sideplates, handles, spools, etc.

And many of the new commonly used smaller parts are all organized according to part numbers -- in a typical part number order --

But I have a lot of loose internals for the Penn conventionals -- mostly new, some used -- and have been organizing them into some type of simple system.  And am going to part out a bunch of old Penns into these plastic organizers over the next few days.

Question: From all of you experienced experts out there, is there a shortcut or trick to identifying main and pinion gears easily? 

Even if I count teeth, and measure carefully -- unless I have the old gear on my bench -- it is difficult to match.

Any hints or ideas?

Thanks,

Fred













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Whoa!
Maybe consider hiring an intern or finding an apprentice?
Its like a 10,000 piece jigsaw puzzel.  I would think starting with known part number/model/ratio gear sets, and finding matches might be a good first step.  Someone else might have an actual helpful trick or teo for you.
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fIsHsTiiCkS

Most I can identify just by looking. Hard part will be finding the first set for each gear then just match it up accordingly. Btw I see you have steel 113h gears!! I'm interested in a few if you are will to let them go!

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Quote from: Alto Mare on April 05, 2015, 03:09:45 AM
Just a guess ;D

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wow thats alot of parts..... very nice !!!!  ;)
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foakes

Thanks, Sal --

I will mark these as you have indicated.

If I split the pinions up into groups -- would you have any expert eyeballs on those?

Best,

Fred
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Fred, there is no way to accomplish your goal so you should just send me the parts and I'll save you the hassle  ;D, but I may forget your return address. :o
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The steel ones marked 5-113H second row from the bottom on the right look like 5-349, they have a slightly larger OD than the 5-113H.
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UKChris

Oh you guys are scary! Identifying all those gears from a slightly blurred photo seems like witchcraft  ;)

Sure hope no one bumps your workbench!

Reel 224

I have a question in line with identifying the different Penn gears....the numbers that you ID them with. Do those numbers have anything to do with Ratio or Diameter & TPI? 
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Quote from: RowdyW on April 10, 2015, 04:47:30 PM
They are Penn part numbers

Yes I understand, but I was wonder if those numbers also have something to do with the fore mentioned. (ie) size,dia.,ratio...etc.
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foakes

Good question, 224 --

But the first number is a typical Penn key # for all reels -- for a main gear -- 5.

The following number after the hyphen -- is the reel model #.

Some gears are for multiple models -- but they only carry one part number, if the same.

You probably have a master Penn parts "KEY" chart -- showing all parts for various models of conventionals.

However, if you do not, or anyone else needs one on the site -- I could scan and post, so anyone could print it.

Best,

Fred

This information is probably already somewhere on this site -- buried away.
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Reel 224

Quote from: foakes on April 10, 2015, 05:07:34 PM
Good question, 224 --

But the first number is a typical Penn key # for all reels -- for a main gear -- 5.

The following number after the hyphen -- is the reel model #.

Some gears are for multiple models -- but they only carry one part number, if the same.

You probably have a master Penn parts "KEY" chart -- showing all parts for various models of conventionals.

However, if you do not, or anyone else needs one on the site -- I could scan and post, so anyone could print it.

Best,

Fred

This information is probably already somewhere on this site -- buried away.

Fred That would be great!
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