Looking for clip

[The Great Maudu]

Does anyone know where I can find these clips?

[Steve-O]

FleaBay - might not be the exact size you're looking for but it's a start.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100pcs-Fishing-Fast-lock-Barrel-Swivel-Solid-Enforce-Fishing-Pin-Snaps-Connector-/291820994210?hash=item43f1e2fea2:g:94kAAOSwZVlXi4SM

[sharkman]

I have seen those before on a shark fishing outlet store online. I believe West Marine also has them.

[The Great Maudu]

Thank for the replies. I'll check it out

[Jeri]

If you don't come good in US stores, try Veals, they ship anywhere in the world. Huge variety of these types of clips, we use them all the time in the surf, have 1000's in our shop.

www.veals.co.uk/acatalog/Rig_Accessories.html

Hope that helps.

Cheers

Jeri

[sharkman]

Found a site Tackle4all.com.  Clips made by Mustad.

[Fish-aholic]

You need to be careful who you purchase those specific links from because the wire gauge, link size and shape differs between manufacturers/sellers.

The better/best quality links come from a manufacturer called Gemini and the links are called Gemini genie clips. They are available in stronger gauge wire and an elongated arm for bait clipping or ease of attachment.

Gemini genie links: http://www.veals.co.uk/acatalog/gemini-genie-rig-link-x-10-631.html#SID=76

Gemini genie super strength links: http://www.veals.co.uk/acatalog/gemini-genie-super-strength-link-clip-3703.html#SID=76

Gemini genie links with bait clip/elongated arm: http://www.veals.co.uk/acatalog/gemini-genie-rig-clip-x-10-630.html#SID=76

Gemini genie super strength links with bait clip/elongated arm: http://www.veals.co.uk/acatalog/gemini-genie-super-strength-rig-clip-3704.html#SID=76

I have used all manner of brands and Gemini offer the best quality.

[Fish-aholic]

As an alternate link these Breakaway fastlinks are also worth consideration: http://www.veals.co.uk/acatalog/breakaway-fastlinks-629.html#SID=76

[Jeri]

Hi All,

One of the drawbacks of some of the clips that have been mentioned above, is the size of the 'hook clip', if you are using that aspect for your surf casting application.

We found that the original sizes for the UK versions were quite small, and didn't work very well on hook sizes above 3/0 or 4/0, which for our surf fishing here in southern Africa was problematic, because we are using bigger hooks.

The solution we came up with was to mimic the design, and get a slightly larger version made, and that immediately solved all the problems of hook release and the weakness of wire, as our supplier/wire bender uses heavier guage wire.

It is of course as always 'horses for courses'.

Cheers from sunny Africa.

Jeri

[oc1]

Does the hook ever come loose using that style clip?  Sort of spooky not having any sort of safety catch.
-steve

[Jeri]

Hi,

The sinker side of the trace is longer than the hook side, so when loading the hook & bait onto the clip, gravity on the sinker holds the hook & bait in place, even during most casts. As soon as the hook & bait, or more specifically the sinker hit the water, the pressure holding the hook in place is removed, and it drops free. The system is worth about 5-10 metres minimum in casting distance, as it is a lot more aerodynamic than a bait and hook swinging around behind the sinker.

An evolution of the system is to actually cast an addititonal wire into the top of the sinker, and then bend it to form the clip. This obviously saves on cost per rig, especially if you are fiashing in snaggy ground, but still want distance improvements.

Hope that helps.

Cheers

Jeri

[oc1]

Thank you very much Jeri, but now I am more confused than ever. Not uncommon and not a problem.
-steve

[Jeri]

Hi Steve,

The clip first mentioned in this discussion is a simple clip for attaching sinkers to the end of a nylon trace for surf casting. It then changed to 'hook clips', which do the same job but have a small side hook for distance surf castingm where the bait and hook are attached. See picture below:



The top loop of the clip is still attached to the nylon sinker dropper. The nylon sinker dropper is longer than the dropper for the hook length, and thus when all hooked up, the sinker is effectively 'carried' by the hook length - such that both are temporarily attached. This 'attachment' lasts through the course of the cast and flight out to the sea surface, where the tension that is holding the sinker in place - is then released, and drops free.

Hope this clears up your confusion. They are sinker attachment clips, with variations.

Cheers from sunny Africa

Jeri

[oc1]

OK.  Got it now.  Thank you for taking the time.
-steve

[Swami805]

I fish off the local piers quite  a bit, never seen that before. Just so I'm clear, the tag end of the sinker trace is tied to the closed loop of the clip, the eye of the sinker slides down into the loop in the clip but how does it attach to the hook? Looks like it might help to keep the bait for flying off during the cast as well.
Thanks from rainy Santa Barbara
Sheridan