Penn 500 100% Drag with half turn of star - how to fix it????

Started by El Pescador, June 28, 2020, 12:56:01 AM

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nelz

I don't mind taking a reel apart several times to get it right, it's enjoyable except for the grease on my skin (hate working with gloves). It does concern me though, that eventually the threads on a screw-hole will eventually get stripped.

Alto Mare

Quote from: El Pescador on July 08, 2020, 02:34:23 PM
Well, the saga continues,

AT.com Member of good standing - Gfish - sent me 2 Delrin washers to keep the fix going on my Tib'd 500.



Here is what I did.   I removed the last keyed SS washer, the one that comes with Bryan's 5+1 washer stack, and replaced it with the original issue thicker metal keyed washer,

then the Delrin washer from Gfish,

then the Rowdy-recommended 8-60 wavey washer, spacing sleeve, star, handle.

NOW what I have is a full ONE and 1/2 turn of the handle with SMOOTHNESS I've never seen with this reel.  With the Delrin washer, the smoothness is REELY felt at the last 1/4 turn before MAXED OUT lockdown - no more line released.   

I think we're done here boyz.

I'm starting to prep for the Morro Bay trip for July 13, return on Tuesday, leave on Wednesday for my yearly fishing / camping / 4X4 5-day trip with Buddy Boy Jerry.  Photos when I return.

TANKS ALL for the help and assistance.  STILL NOT going in the reel repair business, I'll leave that to those that enjoy it far more than I do.

Keep in mind, and I'll say it to the bitter end....    I'd RATHER be FISH'n ...    than Fix'n!!!   and you can quote me on that.

Wayne
Hello Wayne, I think you did really good and should be proud.
I remember a few years back you didn't know how to remove the handle, you came a long way.

You would never be in a jam, you already know the deal .
Good job buddy👍

Sal
Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.

Donnyboat

Ay Wayne, you will get great personal satisfaction, when you catch a good fish with it, cheers Don.
Don, or donnyboat

otghoyt

Did you get your answer?  I quit reading and jumped to the answer.
CF also expands laterally when you're screwing the 1/2 turn @ the star.
Meaning....the friction washer is expanding outward against the main gear and a tiny bit against the gear sleeve.
I was cutting some .037 stuff and I used the steel washers clamped onto my sheet of CF to cut my friction washer.  Perfect! Right? Wrong. Drove me crazy. I've seen it on Ultimate 7 plate 113H drag right out of the bag. They grow sideways when they get squeezed thinner.
H~ 8)

Rancanfish

I woke today and suddenly nothing happened.

El Pescador

Hoyt!

Fred has the answer 1st!!!!  Dominick wanted me to bring it to him for his lookover.

Rowdy (May God rest his soul) and MO65 both had the follow-up answer.  Bryan Young ( and the same to you Bryan, may God rest your soul) was equally helpful

GET RID of the Thick Belleville washer and put in an 8-60 Tension Spring washer

Everyone was very helpful UNTIL THIS!!!

Quote from: Maxed Out on June 28, 2020, 09:35:57 PMWayne, I suspect your issue is within your reach.

 Can you carefully remove drag stack and post a picture and also a picture of the inside of main gear without the drags installed.

 Ted

Ted had me take it all apart for a photo, only to DRY SHAVE me anyway!!!

Ted, You are a fishing buddy for sure.

Again, I make my point, I'D RATHER BE FISH'N than FIX'N!!!!  and YOU can quote me on that!!!!

Wayne

Never let the skinny guys make the sandwiches!!  NEVER!!!!

Gfish

I like maintenance, but fixing for me is usually a slow process of failing upward.
Fishing tackle is an art form and all fish caught on the right tackle are"Gfish"!

oldmanjoe

 :) Fixing is part of fishing , well for real fisherman anyway !!! >:D  >:D  :d  :d 
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 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

Keta

Hi, my name is Lee and I have a fishing gear problem.

I have all of the answers, yup, no, maybe.

A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way.
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JasonGotaProblem

Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

Keta

Hi, my name is Lee and I have a fishing gear problem.

I have all of the answers, yup, no, maybe.

A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way.
Mark Twain

UKChris1

Hookaphobia  ;D  - got it threading my finger onto a hook in the depths of winter many, many years ago. It hurt a lot when my finger eventually thawed out  :'( !
 
I use a lot of barbless hooks these days - easier to pull out of me and my clothes as well as the fish.