Spooling around , 220, 330, 440 ,550 and 270 spools .

Started by oldmanjoe, December 01, 2020, 01:47:57 AM

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Bill B

Wow I just now came across this.  Amazing Joe.  Bill
It may not be very productive,
but it's sure going to be interesting!

oldmanjoe

 Well I combed it`s hair and brushed it's teeth ,so i snapped a picture before he gets dirty again .
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 "Mitten im blickfeld versteckt 
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

Paul Roberts


Rancanfish

I clicked on this thread title. I thought it was a Newell thread lol.
I woke today and suddenly nothing happened.

oldmanjoe

 I liked spool that I did on page 4 , that I found some more spools .    3 are 720-722 and 3 more of the 712 Z .

The 720 will drop right in without cutting the skirt ,but it is also a little smaller in diameter by .050 thousants .   Also the drag stack sits a little lower in the well and the drag nut does not hit it .  This is a easy fix , add more drag washers ,or change the frictions for thicker ones.

  I am J B welding this set , instead of using washers .   Waiting for J B to set up some , than I can do little more clean up with a razor blade .
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 "Mitten im blickfeld versteckt 
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

oldmanjoe

  I will start off with the 720 spool first .  The spool is a tick taller than a stock 220 spool.
     Believe it or not it helps with fixing the hourglass effect , and very braid friendly.

     The skirt is smaller in diameter than the 220. Which by the way has a lot of variances , I have in front of me several that range from 2.158- 2.176 .  It may work that way , but a quick fix is a rubber band . I may use contact cement to hold it in place to test with .   First two pictures .   Third picture is the clicker , needs to be cut a litte , too long .

  Forth picture is the drag stack , to make it to the top of the well .    Happy testing

 
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 "Mitten im blickfeld versteckt 
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

oldmanjoe

Just happen recently , fought a stingray that looked like the hood of my truck early in the day , than later fought a black drum about 34-37 inch ,lost him at the boat .

  After cleaning the boat ,I started on the rods . The 220 that caught the 2 biggest fish , the drag was still locked down .  After loosing it and washing it I hear pop and see a coil spring of mono . Jacked the spool !    Who is going to spot it ..... :fish


I have a few new aluminum spools to finish up.
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 "Mitten im blickfeld versteckt 
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

NathanG

Hi Joe,

I recently acquired a 221 that was seized. After a thorough clean and lube the reel works well, however, the spool is a wreck!  The rim has broken off leaving jagged edges rendering it unusable.  So I was very interested to see what you've done using a Penn 720 spool!  Have you done any further testing of this?

I really appreciate the advice and guidance from this board!  Huge help in trying to restore and use vintage reels!

oldmanjoe

Quote from: NathanG on October 27, 2026, 02:44:48 PMHi Joe,

I recently acquired a 221 that was seized. After a thorough clean and lube the reel works well, however, the spool is a wreck!  The rim has broken off leaving jagged edges rendering it unusable.  So I was very interested to see what you've done using a Penn 720 spool!  Have you done any further testing of this?

I really appreciate the advice and guidance from this board!  Huge help in trying to restore and use vintage reels!
Yes on the testing .  the 720 - 722 with the rubber band on the rim didn`t work well .  I did add JB weld to build up the diameter instead of the rubber band .     This spool will take a lot of drag frictions to fill the cup .   720 is on the left and 712z on the right .

    What kind of fishing do you do and what type of line do you like , momo or braid ?
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 "Mitten im blickfeld versteckt 
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

NathanG

I don't fish nearly as much as I'd like to, but when I do, its usually for bass or pike.  Locally in PA or in southern Ontario.

I'd envisioned using braid on the 221, but I have reels spooled with either one.  But to get to that point I need to find a workable spool.   I do have a complete 220, so using the spool from that reel is certainly an option.  I am a bit nervous about using the plastic spool based on the its condition as well as the pictures you've posted!  Obviously bass and pike don't fight like rays, but I can see the spool getting banged around in the bottom of the boat!

oldmanjoe

Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 "Mitten im blickfeld versteckt 
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

NathanG

Essentially, yes.  Ideally I'd like to find a way to create a metal spool for the 221.  In my limited experience the aged plastic spool seems to be the 'weak link' in the reel.

quang tran

I always wish to have 220,221 spool that have bigger washer ,more drag surface less capacity is OK as brad line is much thinner