Tips to removing a stuck rotor for 550?

Started by BCT7, January 10, 2021, 10:20:44 PM

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BCT7

Hello all,
I am in the middle of cleaning my newly bought 550. I have removed the nut and washer but the rotor is not coming out. Does anyone has tips or tricks how to do this safely? I am trying not to put a lot of pressure and break things. I think it must be rusted. I can see some rust in the pinion gear.

Thanks
Chris

Wompus Cat

#1
There May be a Clip with two holes in it you have to remove but I think that is for the bearing You might spray some penetrate around it then tap on on it lightly with a wooden hammer handle.
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foakes

#2
Remove everything possible before attempting this rotor removal, Chris —

We don't want any parts to be tweaked or ruined.

Spray a little penetrating oil around the top outer part of the worm pinion — let it penetrate downwards for 15 minutes, or so.

The worm pinion is a very heavy duty steel — the rotor is aluminum.  The rotor is not threaded on — it is held in place by a drive plate, lock washer, and a hex nut.  If the pinion wasn't fused to the rotor — the rotor would just slip off.

This is not serious rust between the worm pinion and rotor — but rather just a tacked together couple of pieces that just need the surface tension broken.  The worm may be rusted, the main bearing, the snap ring, spring washer, and bearing shield — but these can be cleaned up or replaced very easily.

The rust is due to either salt water and no servicing — or just no servicing — water caused the rust.

When everything is removed — including the hex nut, and spring washer, and maybe the drive plate (this isn't a deal breaker, the worm will come out with the drive plate in place) — next do this...

Put a big, fat rag under the body and rotor  — as you hold in your hand, just the rotor — as securely as possible — then, using a nylon faced hammer — just drive the worm pinion downward — thus breaking the fuse-hold.

If you don't have a nylon faced hammer like this — a chunk of hardwood can be used as a drive buffer between the top of the worm-pinion and your hammer.

This has ALWAYS worked for me with never an issue —

After you get the rotor off — you can then remove the other parts mentioned — drive the bearing off of the worm-pinion — clean everything up as good as you can.  Test the bearing, replace if necessary.

This will work — no worries...

If any little parts are needed to replace rusted ones — I should have those for you.

The 550 is a large powerhouse.  Very capable reel for large fish.

Best,

Fred
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Awesome explanation Fred.
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BCT7

Thank you very much Fred for confirming that the rotor is not threaded or somehow attached to something.  I did not think it was (drive plate, lock washer, and a hex nut are off), but started to doubt myself that maybe I missed a step or something. I have it soaking in PB Blaster now. It was getting late, and need to work on dinner. I was kinda getting annoyed anyway lol so I better stop before I do something dumb and break something.

Thank you
Chris

foakes

Let us know how you do, Chris —

Oftentimes, I get tired of working on a reel (and almost everything else in my life is more important than reels these days) — just have a good dinner, a movie with the wife, head to bed — early the next morning it all comes so much easier.

Balance & patience.

Sounds like you have it under control.

Best, Fred
The Official, Un-Authorized Service and Restoration Center for quality vintage spinning reels.

D-A-M Quick, Penn, Mitchell, and ABU/Zebco Cardinals

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You don't work for your tools — your tools have to work for you...
Set up your shop and workspace accordingly and efficiently.

"Those who fall and get back up, are so much stronger than those that never fell".

foakes

#6
For tough bearing/worm pinion extractions — this has always worked pretty well for me.

Best, Fred
The Official, Un-Authorized Service and Restoration Center for quality vintage spinning reels.

D-A-M Quick, Penn, Mitchell, and ABU/Zebco Cardinals

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You don't work for your tools — your tools have to work for you...
Set up your shop and workspace accordingly and efficiently.

"Those who fall and get back up, are so much stronger than those that never fell".

Midway Tommy

Me, too. Same concept with a little different setup. I usually do it so the body ends up in my lap, on purpose.  :)
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Tommy D (ORCA), NE



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BCT7

Just want to give a quick update. My son and I been fishing with this reel, paired with a 9 ft rod and 30 lbs braid. It works great, I can cast very far with 2 oz weight. Enough to put the bait in the deeper part of the lake where the fish are. Our largest so far is 3-4 lbs carp but hoping that we will catch larger ones.