servicing a shimano stella 1000fa

Started by buzzawak, June 13, 2021, 01:22:37 AM

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buzzawak

I have got a request to service a Shimano Stella 1000fa
Up to the point, (about a year) I have only done low-end spinner.
Is there anything I need to be aware of with this reel?
Do I need any special tools?
Am I biting off more than I can chew?

Wompus Cat

Not familiar with a 100fa .
Are you sure that is the Number  of the Reel
First thing to do if you don't know about a particular Reel is to try and Find a Schematic and if then you get lost you will have something to go by.
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Ruffy

And take lots of photos along the way!

Also beware of the potential for small shims that may have been installed during assembly that do not appear on the schematic; I have had this occur on Shimano baitcasters, and while I am not too sure about their spinners I would not be too surprised if they did this on the Stella for best performance.

philaroman

#3
if you're mechanically inclined AND it were your own reel w/ no deadline -- why not?
otherwise, play w/ several Sustain/Stradic before you take on someone else's Stella
https://www.reelschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/schematics/Shimano/Stella/SHIMANO%20STELLA%20STL1000FA%282003%29.pdf

and, anyway...  this fella'
wants to trust his Stella
to a total newbella???
I'd stay away [the Hella']!!!
from long, sad novella  :o

tell him his Stella is over 18 & should take care of herself  ;D ;D ;D

oc1

#4
No guts, no glory.  Are parts still available?  If not, that means an additional layer guts.




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buzzawak


Gfish

It'ed take awhile, but one system, such as the spool assembly, at a time. That is disassemble, clean/lube, then reassemble before moving on say, to the rotor...
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foakes

"Service" means different things to different people — to both the tech and the client.

Questions —

Has it been used in the salt?  —  If so, it will likely need a complete disassemble, cleaning of all parts, inspection and replacement of worn parts.

If used lightly in fresh water — it is possible to partially disassemble key systems — evacuate any grease and crud — relube, and done.

For me, I wouldn't do anything except a full disassemble, cleaning, reassemble, tune, and final inspection for all functions.

Anyone owning or buying a Stella expects this to be done completely.

The other thing, non-availability of some key Shimano parts — and their expense.

How long will you work on this reel — and is it worth it?

I have worked on a few of these — and you can never charge enough to come out even, let alone make a modest profit.

One thing — when done, you will either be an accomplished expert — or you may not do another one.

Good Luck,

Fred
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fishgrain

FA Stella discontinued over 10 years ago - service not supported by MFR.

Very attractive reel but reflective covers susceptible to corrosion and bubbling.

The Oscillating Slider can be a problem, and unlikely to find a replacement if needed.

Taking that job on is going the extra mile - potential for many frustrating hours to follow. A lot of small parts to service and keep track of.

Complex reel - people who assemble them in Japan are well trained and experienced.

As Fred said, only way to learn though. But could be for naught probably won't see another one for a while if ever again.

buzzawak

#10
Quote from: foakes on June 13, 2021, 04:00:00 PM
"Service" means different things to different people — to both the tech and the client.

Questions —
Has it been used in the salt?  —  If so, it will likely need a complete disassemble, cleaning of all parts, inspection and replacement of worn parts.
If used lightly in fresh water — it is possible to partially disassemble key systems — evacuate any grease and crud — relube, and done.
For me, I wouldn't do anything except a full disassemble, cleaning, reassemble, tune, and final inspection for all functions.
Anyone owning or buying a Stella expects this to be done completely.
The other thing, non-availability of some key Shimano parts — and their expense.
How long will you work on this reel — and is it worth it?
I have worked on a few of these — and you can never charge enough to come out even, let alone make a modest profit.
One thing — when done, you will either be an accomplished expert — or you may not do another one.
Good Luck,
Fred

Thanks, Fred, I am approaching this as a "feather in the cap" mindset. To late to turn back the customer will be here within the hour. Fortunately, I have a whole week with the reel so can take my time.

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boon

Treat the reel as a series of "blocks" and service/reassemble them in sequence. Stellas tend to use about 8 parts where a more simple reel might have used two.

I've only pulled apart more modern ones but I would approach it as the following units:

Spool/Drag
Rotor/Bail
Anti Reverse (brace yourself...)
Primary Geartrain
Oscillation System
Body
Handle/Arm

buzzawak

Quote from: boon on June 15, 2021, 10:05:11 PM
Treat the reel as a series of "blocks" and service/reassemble them in sequence. Stellas tend to use about 8 parts where a more simple reel might have used two.

I've only pulled apart more modern ones but I would approach it as the following units:

Spool/Drag
Rotor/Bail
Anti Reverse (brace yourself...)
Primary Geartrain
Oscillation System
Body
Handle/Arm

Thanks Boon, The Stella is definitely one reel you don't want to totally dismantle and spread the parts out. I Will be taking your advice and working one one section at a time.   

ReelClean

#14
If you haven't got it out already,  IIRC the size, you need a .9mm (0.89mm to be precise) allen key to remove the spool support flange.  If it is tight you might munt it if you try to improvise with something else.
Cheers
Steve
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