Is old better than new

[jgp12000]

 A few days ago I just wanted to know how much propane bottles were pre-covid & wasn't reel specific, it snowballed, funnie stuff


water cooler talk

[Maxed Out]

A few days ago I just wanted to know how much propane bottles were pre-covid & wasn't reel specific, it snowballed, funnie stuff


water cooler talk

 Key word "snowballed"

 As a kid, whenever we had a snowstorm, me and a few friends would roll a huge snowball about 5' diameter, until we could no longer roll it. Now that I'm "older", I would never consider doing such a thing. In this case "older" isn't better.

 Loving this thread !!

[jgp12000]

I had a coworker that was a self proclaimed "walking encyclopedia" & he was a smart man. He would go from one story to the next without taking a breath.I would like to get him started up & when Someone innocently walked up,I would slip away & then they were stuck for 30+ minutes

[nelz]

As much as I love my 712, it is now officially a shelfy. My newer spinners are far better balanced, lighter, better drags, and I won't go back to a auto-only bail with spring that breaks so often. But, other than that, it is bullet-proof and will certainly outlive me!

[pointbob]

I got 3 words "712" Penn.

would it handle 27 pound chinook in the river?

I would think it would.

However, I think a better reel for large Salmon in current would be a 710.

Best, Fred

fair enough but 710 is a 16oz reel...the 722 is 9 oz....just saying all day on the river easier o nthe 722    thank you

[Midway Tommy]

fair enough but 710 is a 16oz reel...the 722 is 9 oz....just saying all day on the river easier o nthe 722    thank you

It's a shame, though, that Penn cut corners on the 720s & 722s when they decided not to make them worm gear driven to cheapen them.

[pointbob]

fair enough but 710 is a 16oz reel...the 722 is 9 oz....just saying all day on the river easier o nthe 722    thank you

It's a shame, though, that Penn cut corners on the 720s & 722s when they decided not to make them worm gear driven to cheapen them.

Oh really? DO you know if they did that with the 712z? it's about 12oz i think

[Midway Tommy]

The 712 & 712Z are worm gear driven.

The 720, 720Z, 722 & 722Z are the only Penn models from that era's lines that aren't worm gear driven.

[nelz]

It wouldn't have made sense to make the 720s & 722s as robust as the greenies, they were intended as a cheaper alternative. But I still loved my little 720 just as much, both model lines were quality gear.

[tincanary]

I feel like the old vs new debate is very dependent on the reel in question.  A lot of the old stuff we like to use was high end 30+ years ago.  Take for instance the Zebco Cardinal 3, it was $79.99 back in '76, or $450 today adjusted for inflation.  That is one of many examples.  That reel was designed to last, much like higher end stuff of today.  When I browse the Japanese Auction sites, there are plenty of reels like the Daiwa Millionaire CV-Z platform, Shimano Calcutta Conquest, etc that are now well over 20 years old in great shape, just ready to land the big one.  Those reels are still made, and run about $600 and $500 respectively.  In the case of the Calcutta Conquest, the design has been revised/updated over 4 generations, but parts are still available for the earlier gens.  The Calcutta Conquest dates back to 2001 and the Millionaire CV-Z platform to 1998.  The bargain stuff wasn't designed to last, it was designed to be replaced.  Most of those aren't even worth the time and money to service unless it holds sentimental value to somebody, then there is the challenge of obtaining parts.