114H drag upgrade

elcarlstono · March 07, 2025, 07:54:27 PM

I'm upgrading the drag on my 114H, from the 3 thick asbestos washers to the 10 piece kit.
Looking back at some other threads there is mention of adding a washer under the main gear. Specifically, Alan mentions adding a "#6-114" in this thread (https://alantani.com/index.php/topic,38470.msg453692.html#msg453692) , which I am unable to find.
It does currently have the #4-115 fiber washer already,
Thanks, y'all.

MACflyer · March 07, 2025, 08:41:19 PM

You can use the fiber washer you have. I believe Alan suggests the drag washer under the gear to get a few more pounds of drag. The new five drag washers should get you well over 15 pounds of smooth drag.

Keta · March 07, 2025, 08:47:01 PM

Sometimes a drag washer works, sometimes you have to reduce the OD. Another alternitive is a delrin washer.

elcarlstono · March 09, 2025, 09:43:37 PM

I went with the Delrin washer as right now I don't have huge drag requirements. I did complete the rebuild but I have a lot of free space and the tension spring is flopping around and not engaged. I know I got all the washers in there. Thicker washers needed, maybe?

alantani · March 09, 2025, 10:03:42 PM

nah, you're fine. the fish will never know!!!!

thorhammer · March 10, 2025, 02:38:30 AM

Nice. Carlton. I'll be home this weekend and I think I have some Abu blocks in the truck for you.

Gfish · March 10, 2025, 03:08:55 PM

That's alota space. Maybe there should be a thick wavy washer between the star and the "top hat" drag spacer.

Keta · March 10, 2025, 03:16:40 PM

I prefer bellville washers or keyed washers for spacers. It looks like another CF and metal washer might fit if there is room in the gear and sideplate clearance. If the top washer is eared and there is room a CF and keyed washer works. If it is a keyed washer it does not gave to ne in the gear to work.

Gfish · March 10, 2025, 03:20:18 PM

Yeah, that would be a better first thing to try.

Keta · March 10, 2025, 03:22:58 PM

Both work though. T do not like that much star travel and set up my reels with mimimun gap.

Hardy Boy · March 10, 2025, 03:56:16 PM

I agree with Lee. I keep the gap to a min.

Cheers

Todd

Gfish · March 10, 2025, 05:15:16 PM

Extra drag washers might give you more smoothness and range, while a heavy wave washer would probably only increase range.

Keta · March 10, 2025, 05:35:59 PM

Yup, I like to have some spring tension.

elcarlstono · March 11, 2025, 05:39:17 PM

Quote from: thorhammer on March 10, 2025, 02:38:30 AMNice. Carlton. I'll be home this weekend and I think I have some Abu blocks in the truck for you.

Awesome. I'll trade you a Senator rod for them

elcarlstono · March 11, 2025, 05:58:46 PM

Here's the way I loaded it: 10 stack in "usual" order(CF,K,CF,E,CF,K,CF,E,CF,K), topped by the thick wavy washer, followed by the "hat", then star, then thin wavy, then handle. After the original post I replaced one of the replacement keyed washers with the one original thick one and that helped me a little, but I've still got about another thin washer worth of play. The original eared washers are the same thickness as the replacements from the kit, so no gain there.