Talica 8II dog washer problem

[boon]

Shimano put that washer in there for a reason, respectfully I'd be moderately unimpressed if someone left a part out of my reel because they couldn't figure out how to put it back in.

Are you placing the washer on the sideplate and then trying to bolt through it?

[retiredandfishing]

i'd leave the washer out.  metal to metal should not be a problem if properly lubed.

I ended up not taking the dogs off of either side as the other side also had a washer like the first did.  I was able to completely disassemble the remaining reels other than the two dogs and service them completely.  I just injected a little Corrosion X under each and cleaned around them.  This is how I will do this model in the future unless there is a real need to take them off, then I'll probably just omit the washers upon reassembly. 

[retiredandfishing]

Shimano put that washer in there for a reason, respectfully I'd be moderately unimpressed if someone left a part out of my reel because they couldn't figure out how to put it back in.

Are you placing the washer on the sideplate and then trying to bolt through it?

Yes, that is what I was trying to do. The lip on the bolt that protrudes down through the bottom of the dog is to small to grip the washer and permit putting it on already slipped over it.  Even a Shimano tech could not help me with this one.  I was directed to him by Shimano.  I was able to get one of the washers on by honing out slightly the diameter of the washer but it took over half and hour to put it back on even when I did that. The Shimano guy's feedback was that he thought it was there to keep dissimilar metals from contact. 

[boon]

Shimano put that washer in there for a reason, respectfully I'd be moderately unimpressed if someone left a part out of my reel because they couldn't figure out how to put it back in.

Are you placing the washer on the sideplate and then trying to bolt through it?

Yes, that is what I was trying to do. The lip on the bolt that protrudes down through the bottom of the dog is to small to grip the washer and permit putting it on already slipped over it.  Even a Shimano tech could not help me with this one.  I was directed to him by Shimano.  I was able to get one of the washers on by honing out slightly the diameter of the washer but it took over half and hour to put it back on even when I did that. The Shimano guy's feedback was that he thought it was there to keep dissimilar metals from contact. 

You will have a terrible time if you're trying to put it on the sideplate and bolt through it, the slightest misalignment will result in what you've seen with the washer getting pinched, and there's nothing on the sideplate to align it. It's a hideous job but you really have to assemble the bolt, dog, and washer, making sure the washer is properly seated on that tiny shoulder of the bolt, then run that into the sideplate as one. For what it's worth, the shoulder is actually slightly longer than the total thickness of the dog and the washer, as long as everything is perfectly square.
A dab of grease can help keep everything slightly tacked together, but then it can inhibit the action of the dog if it's too tacky. Doing it overhead so you're screwing the bolt upwards into the sideplate can help keep everything stacked correctly, but it is still a very fiddly job.