What is this Dam reel

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oldmanjoe

May 16, 2025, 09:05:21 PM
  I spotted something the other day , and said why not looks different .     A quick search and found nothing yet .    Looks like    Wkirlaway Capstan 77
 
 A little smaller that a 270 . Built like a 270 .  About the size of a 440 spool .
    The oscillating gear and slider is made of nylon . Pictures as I received it .

Will know more after giving it a bath !! 
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

oldmanjoe

#1
May 17, 2025, 03:26:41 PM
 ;D  ;D   Well there is a surprize to this reel, and I will save that for later .   I was going to build a 270 reel with a 440 rotor on top .   This reel filled the need .

    This reel had to have been fished in Salt lake city , this spool had more salt than any spool that I have encountered .  It left a pile after digging with a knife .

     About 2 hours in Dawn soap and fizzing away in the U S cleaner .

   The reel is missing the bail . Looks to be a screw in on one side 8.75 mm .  The spread is going to be a little bigger than 85 mm

 
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

foakes

#2
May 17, 2025, 03:47:17 PM
I believe Whirlaway was one of a few Japanese firms in the 50's that made close, but not the same exact copies of popular fishing reels.  DAM Quick, Mitchell, Alcedo, Penn, and others.

In some cases the quality was higher than the original brands, in most cases less so —- in all cases, parts were unavailable unless the model copied was a direct fitment.

Best, Fred
The Official, Un-Authorized Service and Restoration Center for quality vintage spinning reels.

D-A-M Quick, Penn, Mitchell, and ABU/Zebco Cardinals

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If your feeling down and don't know what to do
     Just hold on til tomorrow
Let go of the past
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Live every day like it's your last

Midway Tommy

#3
May 17, 2025, 05:15:44 PM
Made in Australia by Capstan in the late '50s, Joe. You can read all about it here if you scroll down to the Cs: https://www.reelmanaustralia.com/vintageoldcollectablefishingreels

Here's what it looked like when new for your resto. It's a fairly rare reel, you might want to keep the resto original. It's quite a bit more valuable than a standard Dam Super. Maybe not better, but worth more in the collector market.
Love those open face spinning reels! (Especially ABU & ABU/Zebco Cardinals)

Tommy D (ORCA), NE



Favorite Activity? ............... In our boat fishing
RELAXING w/ MY BEST FRIEND (My wife Bonnie)

oldmanjoe

#4
May 17, 2025, 05:16:07 PM
Yes That is it , when I saw that last night ,that led me on a journey.
https://www.reelmanaustralia.com/capstan-reel-page-30
https://www.reelmanaustralia.com/vintageoldcollectablefishingreels

The guts are 270 to a tee .      I can replace the nylon gear and slider with the 270 brass and aluminum  parts .  The casting is very close body shape wise .  I can just put the rotor on the 270 and have a bulletproof reel in a 440 size .  The back bushing is shoulded and the same size .
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

oldmanjoe

#5
May 17, 2025, 05:27:06 PM
 You posted while I was typing  .          The only thing that stings is that the foot is missing a small piece .  I may graft a piece under the foot . It is still seatable as is . Still on the fence with that fix .  Finding a bail will take some time .
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

Gfish

#6
May 17, 2025, 05:29:14 PM Last Edit: May 17, 2025, 05:29:59 PM by Gfish
Interesting. "Surprisingly there was no evidence of any dissatisfaction on the part of the DAM Quick makers".
A nylon oscillation system, why?
'
Fishing tackle is an art form and all fish caught on the right tackle are"Gfish"!

oldmanjoe

#7
May 17, 2025, 05:48:51 PM Last Edit: May 17, 2025, 06:03:19 PM by oldmanjoe
Quote from: Gfish on May 17, 2025, 05:29:14 PMInteresting. "Surprisingly there was no evidence of any dissatisfaction on the part of the DAM Quick makers".
A nylon oscillation system, why?
'
Yes ,when I read that I was thinking that maybe they bought the parts from Dam .
Just a notch in the slider and call it a day ,bullit proof .
  The oscillation shaft  is the same length ,just a smaller click gear for the smaller spool diameter . And a picture with the brass gear in place .
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

foakes

#8
May 17, 2025, 06:51:36 PM
Good to know, Tommy!

Best, Fred
The Official, Un-Authorized Service and Restoration Center for quality vintage spinning reels.

D-A-M Quick, Penn, Mitchell, and ABU/Zebco Cardinals

--


If your feeling down and don't know what to do
     Just hold on til tomorrow
Let go of the past
     Wrap your dreams around you
Live every day like it's your last

Gfish

#9
May 18, 2025, 04:14:50 PM
Cool project.
I wondered about the non-metal oscillation parts because one might need that on a baitcaster to save fingers from damage, but a spinner? Oh well, it saves the manufacturer $, ?.
Fishing tackle is an art form and all fish caught on the right tackle are"Gfish"!

Midway Tommy

#10
May 18, 2025, 05:01:47 PM
Nylon gearing was the big new break through in the late '50s & early '60s. A lot of manufacturers tried it out back then, even in bait casters. Nylon made things quieter but torque & stress can be a big factor.
Love those open face spinning reels! (Especially ABU & ABU/Zebco Cardinals)

Tommy D (ORCA), NE



Favorite Activity? ............... In our boat fishing
RELAXING w/ MY BEST FRIEND (My wife Bonnie)

Milan S

#11
May 19, 2025, 05:31:05 AM


Nylon gear pros:
1. quieter,
2. smoother,
3. more resistant to corrosion (salt),
4. self-lubricating,
5. simpler production,
6. cheaper manufacturing technology,
7. in most cases (when it is not a question of the main driving pair) more resistant to wear,
8. less mass,
9. cheaper raw materials.

Milan S

#12
May 20, 2025, 05:33:27 AM
For the avoidance of doubt, I prefer metal mechanics.  ;D  ;)

JasonGotaProblem

#13
May 20, 2025, 10:55:17 AM
Personally, I tend to hire human mechanics.
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

Milan S

#14
May 21, 2025, 05:55:45 AM
 ;D
I wanted to say I prefer metal parts.
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