From Crossbar to Topless

Started by MexicanGulf, May 20, 2025, 09:55:26 PM

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MexicanGulf

Hi Guys,
do you think it is possible to transform the Penn International 70 VIS frame into Topless?
"A man cannot possess more than his heart can love."

boon

#1
Anything is possible with a mill and enough perseverance.

I would say that you would severely compromise the reel's corrosion resistance where it was cut. Whether it would be structurally sound is another question; presumably Penn doesn't put the crossbar there just for looks.

Perhaps a better question is why?

EDIT: Surely you would just go for a 50VISX, or a Makaira 50 or 80 SEA LBS, or a Talica 50?

MexicanGulf

"A man cannot possess more than his heart can love."

boon

There is a solution to this problem that does not involve sawing the top out of an expensive reel.

MexicanGulf

Quote from: boon on May 21, 2025, 12:58:01 AMThere is a solution to this problem that does not involve sawing the top out of an expensive reel.

explain to me my friend
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boon

#5
Tell your crew not to tutu with the reels!  :d

EDIT: Heavy tackle gamefishing is not an activity for amateurs or people who can't follow instructions. Hacking up a reel because you're worried about a scenario that should never arise in practice seems like a solution looking for a problem :)

Keta

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Gfish

Quote from: boon on May 21, 2025, 12:58:01 AMThere is a solution to this problem that does not involve sawing the top out of an expensive reel.

Electrical tape 🥺?
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Keta

#8
Bovine excrement.

Unless a knife is razor sharp Specrta is hard to cut, the rounded edge of a reel frame is not going to cut it.  If it has a burr it could shread it but not a cut.
Hi, my name is Lee and I have a fishing gear problem.

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Swami805

Just to add a little fuel to the fire there was an outfit "Cofe Products" that hot rodded reels that did remove the top bars on tiagras and apparently it worked out OK. I have a 16 size tiagra that came with the top bar removed and the bare metal treated with something. I've since found a topless frame for it and replaced it since it looked kind of ghetto. Good idea?  Maybe?
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jurelometer

#10
Spectra fiber properties are very different (including brittleness) across vs along the fiber.  I suspect that they are not being cut, but failing under compressive load when pulled against a tight corner on the crossbar. The tighter the corner, the less the load is being distributed.

A reel with a sharp frame edge from a missing or inadequate chamfer or fillet is defective IMHO, and should be returned.  I wonder if this is actually very common.

If the reel is not returnable,  I would  sand the offending edge smooth before I would resort to taping or machining off the entire crossbar.  I have saltwater reels with enough boat rash that the anodized layer is completely missing in some spots.  The exposed aluminum forms a fresh oxide layer, just not as deep as anodizing, but it seems to hold up fine if you don't try to paint over it. And machining off the crossbar leaves a larger wound. Taping creates an oxygen deprived environment under the tape that promotes corrosion.

-J

oc1

I wouldn't worry about sharp edges.  I'd worry about the reel taking a seemingly small bump and being bent out of alignment.

Gfish

This reel is topless already but has that flat metal part screwed into only the front graphite cross-member. I couldn't figure-out the purpose? Maybe abrasion prevention if the spool loses most of it's line?
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Brewcrafter

Quote from: Gfish on May 22, 2025, 04:02:19 PMThis reel is topless already but has that flat metal part screwed into only the front graphite cross-member. I couldn't figure-out the purpose? Maybe abrasion prevention if the spool loses most of it's line?
Did you get that second hand or did it come that way "out of the box"?

JasonGotaProblem

My impression would be that it's there to add rigidity lost by the removal of the top bar.

I don't do a lot of trolling and have never fished for tuna, swordfish or any of the really big stuff you guys out west target. Every conventional I use is topless, with the exception of those with a levelwind. And a reel being topless makes me more likely to want it. But that's just me.
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