Penn Sargus 6000 skewed line lay

[Strömsborg]

Hello, I recently bought a used Sargus II 6000 and when I first put line it the line was sharply tapered towards the front. The spool mus be further in towards the reel body. Could the reel be incorrectly assembled? Should the splines on the spool shaft in the image be visible? If the bushing/bearing/cog wheel assembly on the shaft was pushed all the way to where the splines end I think the line lay would be perfect.
I've read that some Penns comes with washers to adjust the line lay (laughable in my opinon) but my reel's got no removeable washers and adding washers would make matters worse.

Any solutions out there? How is the cog wheel mounted, is just pushed in place?

[MACflyer]

Check a parts diagram. Mystic Reel Parts show a thrust washer, bearing, and bearing washer on top of the gear. Can't tell from your pic if those parts are in place. I have used spacer washers on some of my Shimano reels to adjust line lay. Not an expert here, but I would think your spool needs to be moved farther out.

[Gfish]

Assuming no washer exists on top of the cog. Your description sounds like the line is piling-up at the bottom of the spool. If my assumption is right, try a drag type washer there, then re-line the spool.

"the line was sharply tapered towards the front" ... That means the top part of the spool, right?
The visible splines on the spool shaft is interesting also. Never seen that before. That could be the issue, only that would cause the line to pile-up at the bottom of the spool.

[Strömsborg]

I may have been unclear describing the line lay taper. See the spool in the first image, the line is piling up at the bottom and the spool needs to go further back.

The second image is the top of the shaft. Nothing to add or subtract there. The spool pushes against the cog wheel. Theres nothing to change inside the spool either.

I have looked at the parts diagram and the shaft comes with the brass sleeve and the cog wheel as a complete assembly, it seems it isn't supposed to be taken apart. Also, the splines aren't showing, confirming my belief that my reel isn't assembled properly. See image 3.

I held the brass part on my reel against a vice and tapped the end of the shaft with a hammer to try and move the cog wheel and the brass sleeve, it did not budge.

[Gfish]

That helps. Interested, I looked at the Mystic Penn Parts site and the schematic. There is a part #60 inbetween the cog and the spool bottom, it's a Teflon thrust washer. Looks like it goes underneath the spool ball-bearing and sits on top of the cog on that groove.

If it turns-out to be the spline thing, some heat might help to pound it back down.

[MACflyer]

OK the pics helped a lot, as I misunderstood the line lay. In your very first post and pic, as you stated, the gear/cog and brass sleeve on the shaft may have slipped forward. I would remove the shaft assy. and use a small deep well socket and try to tap, or press with the vice, the brass sleeve and gear back into place. If it works, and feels secure, I would use the reel. Otherwise it looks to me like you will need to buy a new shaft assy., or a donor reel. Maybe someone on this site has a Sargus and can look to see where the gear sits on the shaft, or measure the length of the threads on the end of the shaft.

[Strömsborg]

Success!
I took it to the vice again and put a little more meat behind tha hammer blows. First the cogwheel, then the brass sleeve. The shaft could handle it, I expected it to mushroom out a bit and me having to file it back into shape but it showed no trace of having been pummeled with a hammer. And then I had to re-spool 300 yards of line, but now the line lay is spot on.

[Strömsborg]

That helps. Interested, I looked at the Mystic Penn Parts site and the schematic. There is a part #60 inbetween the cog and the spool bottom, it's a Teflon thrust washer. Looks like it goes underneath the spool ball-bearing and sits on top of the cog on that groove.

If it turns-out to be the spline thing, some heat might help to pound it back down.

The #60 washer likely was there once and a previous owner removed it to help the line lay. My Penn Conflict reel still has it. But as sloppy as this reel was assembled it would have needed the removal of another 3 or 4 washers.

[Gfish]

Yeah. Good job. Never seen that happen to spool shaft/ spindle before. MACflyer was right.

I would check to make sure that no slippery washer under the ball-bearing dosen't cause a friction/wear issue.