Wonderglass by Shakespeare

[Daniel Lee]

I am looking for info on a PB-B11 rod. It is 2 pieces and 4'11" and I am pretty sure it is light or ultra light with a slow action tip. And it is a spincast rod.

Anyone know what reels people used on these rods originally? I bought two of them for some vintage wondercast reels I have and those are not ultra light reels. The 1771 and the 1797 are probably not the reels meant for these rods. I only bought them because the reel seats line the reel up with the guides. No modern rod has the off set reel seat. Wonder rods are so expensive and these were a good price. But I haven't fished with them yet and have a 1771 on one of them and I can't remember what lb test I have on it. Probably 10 lb.

Anyway, any info would be appreciated!

[foakes]

I am looking for info on a PB-B11 rod. It is 2 pieces and 4'11" and I am pretty sure it is light or ultra light with a slow action tip. And it is a spincast rod.

Anyone know what reels people used on these rods originally? I bought two of them for some vintage wondercast reels I have and those are not ultra light reels. The 1771 and the 1797 are probably not the reels meant for these rods. I only bought them because the reel seats line the reel up with the guides. No modern rod has the off set reel seat. Wonder rods are so expensive and these were a good price. But I haven't fished with them yet and have a 1771 on one of them and I can't remember what lb test I have on it. Probably 10 lb.

Anyway, any info would be appreciated!

The Shakes Wonderods are very superior fiberglass rods.  They were manufactured using a special process called the Howland process.

Tough, flexible, sensitive,good backbone, forgiving, long-lasting, and fun!

I just picked up a 6.5' Wonderod in white which has a date code showing it was manufactured in February of 1960.  It is unused, 2-piece, and still in the plastic sleeve from the factory!  For sale, if anyone wants it.

Best, Fred

[oc1]

Hmmm....  I think the drop-down, pistol grip, offset handle (there needs to be a standardized name for those things) were available before spincast reels.  Not by much though; maybe 5 years.  That style rod handle is as appropriate and useful for a baitcasting reel as it is for a spincast reel.

It's called the Howald process for making Wonderods..
https://macfishes.com/shakespeare-wonderod/#:~:text=The%20Howald%20Process%20involved%20wrapping%20multiple%20layers%20of,rod%20that%20was%20both%20lightweight%20and%20remarkably%20durable.

At that time, there were two basic methods of making tubular rod blanks; the Howald Process and the Havens Process;.  Here are my recollections of how it worked:

The Howald process rolls pre-impregnated woven fiberglass fiber cloth around a tapered steel mandrel.  The ridges where the fiberglass tape overlaps are not sanded smooth on a Wonderod.

The Havens process lays loose fibers longitudinally along the mandrel, impregnates them with resin and binds them with tow in a crisscross spiral wrap.  The cured rod is then sanded smooth.   In both processes, the mandrel is removed after the resin has cured.

Somewhere around here I have a Wonderod with a foam-core blank.  That was an early, but short-lived, technique that did not require pulling the cured fiberglass rod blank off a polished steel mandrel.

Funny because there used to be a really good description of this stuff on the internet.  Now, AI has bastardized and mixed it all up so you can't get a straight answer.   Someone needs to look up the two patents and clear it up for posterity.

[Daniel Lee]

I hate how AI has messed up searching. Used to be you could do an image search and get the name of a person or great photos of the thing you were searching for or information that was accurate. I really would like the specs for this wonder glass rod. I don't know much about those old shakespeare bait casters.

I saw an old ad that referred to the spincast rod handle as the 'Tru-Aim handle.'

[Daniel Lee]

I am looking for info on a PB-B11 rod. It is 2 pieces and 4'11" and I am pretty sure it is light or ultra light with a slow action tip. And it is a spincast rod.

Anyone know what reels people used on these rods originally? I bought two of them for some vintage wondercast reels I have and those are not ultra light reels. The 1771 and the 1797 are probably not the reels meant for these rods. I only bought them because the reel seats line the reel up with the guides. No modern rod has the off set reel seat. Wonder rods are so expensive and these were a good price. But I haven't fished with them yet and have a 1771 on one of them and I can't remember what lb test I have on it. Probably 10 lb.

Anyway, any info would be appreciated!

The Shakes Wonderods are very superior fiberglass rods.  They were manufactured using a special process called the Howland process.

Tough, flexible, sensitive,good backbone, forgiving, long-lasting, and fun!

I just picked up a 6.5' Wonderod in white which has a date code showing it was manufactured in February of 1960.  It is unused, 2-piece, and still in the plastic sleeve from the factory!  For sale, if anyone wants it.

Best, Fred

Well, is it spinning or spincast or fly? What is the action and power? I just purchased an ultralight for my 2052 spinning reel. If yours is compatible, I am going to regret purchasing the Temple Fork trout and panfish rod. 🙂

[foakes]

It is a 7', not 6.5', as I thought previously.

It is a Model 1416 with the sliding rod mount that can be used for either open-faced spinning reels or fly reels.

The action is light.

Never out of the plastic sleeve until now.  Never had a reel mounted on it.

1960.

It is for sale, along with about 30 ultralight combos which include Fenwick, Eagle Claw, Shimano, and other ultralight rods.  Paired with Gold Mini-Mites, Silver 500C's, Shimano MLZ-10's, DAM Quick Microlites, Penn ultralights, Presidents, and many others.

Just need time to list and sell them.  Great for trout, bass, panfish, etc..

Sold about 16 combos at my sale two weeks ago.  Got about 30 remaining.

Best Regards, Fred

[Midway Tommy]

The best way to find out the Specs for your rod is to research the approximate time those were made and go through a few of the Shakespeare catalogs in that general era and see if you can nail down when it was really available and the catalog specs.

I've done that  many times with other rods like Garcia, Conlon & Ambassadeur. It takes some time but you'll eventually find what you're looking for. 

[Daniel Lee]

It is a 7', not 6.5', as I thought previously.

It is a Model 1416 with the sliding rod mount that can be used for either open-faced spinning reels or fly reels.

The action is light.

Never out of the plastic sleeve until now.  Never had a reel mounted on it.

1960.

It is for sale, along with about 30 ultralight combos which include Fenwick, Eagle Claw, Shimano, and other ultralight rods.  Paired with Gold Mini-Mites, Silver 500C's, Shimano MLZ-10's, DAM Quick Microlites, Penn ultralights, Presidents, and many others.

Just need time to list and sell them.  Great for trout, bass, panfish, etc..

Sold about 16 combos at my sale two weeks ago.  Got about 30 remaining.

Best Regards, Fred

I need some parts for my shakespeare 2052. I need the reverse thread level wind screw. Part number is 74-58-5888-01. A Gear assembly. Part number A75-28-6442-01. And a bearing. Part Number 74-14-0016-0. The bearing is an sk1dd7 I think. If you have a 2052 that is a parts reel, I would be interested in that too. I am pretty sure the 2062 has the same parts. Let me know please.

[foakes]

Yeah, it would be your best bet to look for a complete parts reel.

I do have a few partial 2062's, and likely the parts you need elsewhere.

But it would take digging through hundreds of large crates of old reels —- with no guarantee of success —- without the reel on one of my benches for a parts match.  Just don't have the time when there is a 50+ backlog of reels to service, repair, and build out as new —- for members currently.

Sold all of my NOS Shakes parts a few years ago.  Now I just mostly specialize in DAM Quick, Penn, Cardinal, and Mitchell spinning reels —- that keeps me busy, and I have hundreds of thousands of parts organized and numbered for those reels.

It takes (6) separate locations and rooms just for the parts.

Best, Fred

[Daniel Lee]

Oh well. I'm hoping someone here has the parts. But getting someone to bite is like fishing in the middle of the lake with no structure to put your lure! He he. Thanks anyway.

[Daniel Lee]

Yeah, it would be your best bet to look for a complete parts reel.

I do have a few partial 2062's, and likely the parts you need elsewhere.

But it would take digging through hundreds of large crates of old reels —- with no guarantee of success —- without the reel on one of my benches for a parts match.  Just don't have the time when there is a 50+ backlog of reels to service, repair, and build out as new —- for members currently.

Sold all of my NOS Shakes parts a few years ago.  Now I just mostly specialize in DAM Quick, Penn, Cardinal, and Mitchell spinning reels —- that keeps me busy, and I have hundreds of thousands of parts organized and numbered for those reels.

It takes (6) separate locations and rooms just for the parts.

Best, Fred

Do you know anyone here that does have the Shakespeare parts that I could ask?

[Daniel Lee]

The best way to find out the Specs for your rod is to research the approximate time those were made and go through a few of the Shakespeare catalogs in that general era and see if you can nail down when it was really available and the catalog specs.

I've done that  many times with other rods like Garcia, Conlon & Ambassadeur. It takes some time but you'll eventually find what you're looking for. 

Where oh where are these old shakespeare catalogues? A guy like me would spend hours browsing them! It would be like Christmas morning to view these babys! I've had a link to the Zebco catalogues and those are fun to browse. Have you been to the antique rods and reels library that helps ID shakespeare wonder rods? It is mostly spinning and fly rods. I can't remember seeing any spincast rods. I will have to browse there to see if I can find anything. Thanks for the tips!

[foakes]

Yeah, it would be your best bet to look for a complete parts reel.

I do have a few partial 2062's, and likely the parts you need elsewhere.

But it would take digging through hundreds of large crates of old reels —- with no guarantee of success —- without the reel on one of my benches for a parts match.  Just don't have the time when there is a 50+ backlog of reels to service, repair, and build out as new —- for members currently.

Sold all of my NOS Shakes parts a few years ago.  Now I just mostly specialize in DAM Quick, Penn, Cardinal, and Mitchell spinning reels —- that keeps me busy, and I have hundreds of thousands of parts organized and numbered for those reels.

It takes (6) separate locations and rooms just for the parts.

Best, Fred

Do you know anyone here that does have the Shakespeare parts that I could ask?

No, I don't Daniel —-

But there may be someone with parts.

There are always some 2052's and more 2062's on e-Bay.  The 2062's are less expensive, if the gears are the same.

Best, Fred

[Midway Tommy]

Where oh where are these old shakespeare catalogues? A guy like me would spend hours browsing them! It would be like Christmas morning to view these babys! I've had a link to the Zebco catalogues and those are fun to browse. Have you been to the antique rods and reels library that helps ID shakespeare wonder rods? It is mostly spinning and fly rods. I can't remember seeing any spincast rods. I will have to browse there to see if I can find anything. Thanks for the tips!

ORCA has all kinds of tackle catalogs and other various manuals and information that can be accessed by paid ORCA Members in their Harvey Garrison Library. Not sure if the information you are looking for is in it, but they do have at least 145 various Shakespeare Catalogs in their library.  Lots of 1950s &1960s catalogs listed.

[Daniel Lee]

Where oh where are these old shakespeare catalogues? A guy like me would spend hours browsing them! It would be like Christmas morning to view these babys! I've had a link to the Zebco catalogues and those are fun to browse. Have you been to the antique rods and reels library that helps ID shakespeare wonder rods? It is mostly spinning and fly rods. I can't remember seeing any spincast rods. I will have to browse there to see if I can find anything. Thanks for the tips!

ORCA has all kinds of tackle catalogs and other various manuals and information that can be accessed by paid ORCA Members in their Harvey Garrison Library. Not sure if the information you are looking for is in it, but they do have at least 145 various Shakespeare Catalogs in their library.  Lots of 1950s &1960s catalogs listed.

I figured it was there. I am seriously thinking about getting a membership. I am subscribed to reel talk.