113h 4:1 Gears from Ebay- I see a problem

[Keta]

Steel sparks orange, SS white.

[Dominick]

Steel sparks orange, SS white.

Yeah, but why?

[Keta]

I'll have to look, possibly oxidation.

[Keta]

An hour ago I couldn't even spell metallurgist, now I are one....Oxidation of the elements that make up the alloy.

[Makule]

Steel sparks orange, SS white.

Yeah, but why?

I believe it has to do with carbon burning (sparks).  SS has much less carbon so it doesn't spark.  Hardenable SSs do spark, however.

[Irish Jigger]

I guess these gears are made in Taiwan by an "injector manufacturer"

I would not fit Chinese/Taiwanese ball bearings to my reels nor would I fit their gears either. Lack of QC leads to premature failure.
Would be interested to see what the eBay seller has to say about these gears. Without a  guarantee/warranty its money down the drain..

"Pay peanuts get a monkey"

[Alto Mare]

There has to be a reason why that pinion has been plated and it doesn't look good .
When I was checking these gears out, I noticed that the pinion was a little heavier than the accurate pinion, the main gear was spot on.
Is plain steel  heavier than ss .

I guess these gears are made in Taiwan by an "injector manufacturer"

I would not fit Chinese/Taiwanese ball bearings to my reels nor would I fit their gears either. Lack of QC leads to premature failure.
Would be interested to see what the eBay seller has to say about these gears. Without a  guarantee/warranty its money down the drain..

"Pay peanuts get a monkey"

That might be the case Tom, but i feel bad for the seller that got involved. Fortunately for us, we are protected...."IF" the pinion isn't stainless steel.

[Irish Jigger]

Plated ss pinions?

[Keta]

Is plain steel  heavier than ss .

SS is usualy slightly heavier.

[Alto Mare]

Plated ss pinions?

Tom, not related to this pinion, but yes ss can be plated. There are some that have more money than they know what to do with it. Those are the ones that are looking for a flawless mirror finish on their ss parts. They can't get it out of ss, so they get them plated. I'm sure it's not cheap.
From what i've learned, there aren't many shops that do it, but there are some.

[Black Pearl]

All I can hear is blah, blah.... when a person is talking about something is bad when it is made in China or Taiwan.

Even AVET is made in the USA, some parts inside are made in China.... AVET's CNC machines are made in China, so I guess people should not buy AVET.....

It is a fact that a lot of things are made in China this day, you just need to deal with it.

[Alto Mare]

Play nice fellas  .

[Irish Jigger]

Play nice fellas  .

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[Wael]

Hi there, I can tell you how to a simple way to make sure whether the gears are made of SS or alloy steel. Just use a magnet if it is SS it would never stick to the gears. If Alloy Steel or even Chrome Steel they will be moved to the magnet.
If you had this reel here in Egypt, we could have figured out a solution for both gears for less than you paid in epay. Try to find someone specialist in making cogs and pinions. they may change both of them and ask him to use a case hardening Steel for both cogs. This is as far as I know.Many Thanks for all of you.   

[Keta]

400 series SS is magnetic.