SS sleeve

[BMITCH]

I thought I recently read that there may be a larger dia. With more teeth sleeve available? I'm not sure who or where it was posted on this forum, but I thought I saw it. If so anyone have any information on this upgrade? Larger cf under the gear means more drag...right? And if so what models?

Thanks,bob

[Bryan Young]

at the moment, the SS gear sleeve are built to similar specifications as Penn's.

the CF washer doesn't necessarily add drag pressure, but ensure smooth drag operation because the fiber washer has been prone to intermentent binding even though the rest of the drag stack composes of CF washers.

[Keta]

The gear ID is fixed so if the gear sleeve OD is larger you loose contact surface.

[BMITCH]

Lee, I need to wrap my head around that one. Is it due to the first washer on the inside stack is a cf? As you can plainly see I'm not any kind of engineer.

[franky]

I thought I recently read that there may be a larger dia. With more teeth sleeve available? I'm not sure who or where it was posted on this forum, but I thought I saw it.

Thanks,bob

Hello bob,

I think you might be referring to the gear sleeve on a penn jigmaster.

I believe Alan might have the SS gear sleeve up-grades for the jigmaster reel.  

If you order it, you must let him know what kind of teeth pattern your original sleeve has so that he can make sure that the SS teeth pattern matches the threading pattern of your star.  

[Keta]

Lee, I need to wrap my head around that one. Is it due to the first washer on the inside stack is a cf? As you can plainly see I'm not any kind of engineer.

"Drag" is created by friction between the CF washer and the metal washers/gear.  The more surface area the more drag.  If you make the gear sleeve OD larger you reduce the surface area of the washers (their ID is larger) and have less contact and less drag.

If you are takling about the AR "gear" part see below.  Having that part larger but the "shaft" OD the same will not change the contact surface.

Hello bob,

I think you might be referring to the gear sleeve on a penn jigmaster.

I believe Alan might have the SS gear sleeve up-grades for the jigmaster reel.  

If you order it, you must let him know what kind of teeth pattern your original sleeve has so that he can make sure that the SS teeth pattern matches the threading pattern of your star.  

More teeth on the gear sleeve = less back travel on the handle.

[Bryan Young]

I was talking about it with Alan, but I didn't think you were here...are you a mind reader Bob?  Are you one of the X-men?

Due to the OD of the rachet area on a Penn Gear Sleeve, we couldn't increase the number of teeth by very much to make it beneficial.  We'd just stick with the double dog alternate engagement method if you have a problem with the back play.

[franky]

Oh my...

I totally misread this post....

You're talking about the teeth at the bottom of the gear sleeve...

Time to take a break...

[BMITCH]

Bryan, that's exactly what I was talking about. I didn't really have a chance to put a caliper to the gear sleeve and that's only if the side cover will have enough clearance. As far as mind reading?? I don't think so, just talk to my wife.

Bob

[Keta]

I think a 8 or 10 tooth can be done, here's what I've done for 7500-9500 reels.

[Irish Jigger]

Nice work there Lee. A lot of effort went into that project

[Keta]

I just draw up the parts, have them cut, clean and polish them.  The "reel" work has been done by Sal and Cone  .  I need to put some parts in the spinner Sal gave me but Spinners scare me still 

[Alto Mare]

Lee, that 20 teeth ratchet is awesome, sounds really sweet.... you're the man
Now lets get them in the right thickness, so I can get rid of those washers.
The ratchet fits like a glove, much better than Penn's ratchet, zero play. The handle has very little back movement.
I love it! Thanks Lee.

[Keta]

I have to look at the insides of your reel to see (I'll bite the bullet and dive into it tomorrow)  but do you think a shim washer under the shoulder screw would "cure" the material thickness issues on the dogs that were too thick?

[Alto Mare]

Yes, that's how I did the others from Justin. You will need a nice size shim, what you see is just something I rigged-up to test the ratchet.
I will make these work, but material in the same thickness as the original would be best.