Looking for some help: Need a photo of an SX 5.3

Bucktail · June 13, 2013, 10:28:51 PM

I recently cleaned, re-lubed, installed new bearings and reassembled my friends SX 5.3. It turns OK, has plenty of freespool, and the drag seems fine. The only thing is that it sounds terrible when turning the handle. It's making a zzzzzzzzzzz sound (if that makes any sense). It's not a crunchy, corroded bearing sound, which is what it had when he first gave it to me. It's like an annoying buzzing.

I don't own an Avet, so I can't compare it to anything, but it doesn't sound right. I think that I might have installed the connection arm (part #23) incorrectly. http://www.avetreels.net/uploads/SX_5.3.pdf Unfortunately, the schematic doesn't have a good shot of how it goes in.

If any of you get a chance, can you please take a picture of the inside of the handle side showing how this is supposed to go? If that's not the issue, I'm lost.

Thanks,
Bob

Fish-aholic · June 14, 2013, 01:12:55 AM

Could the sound your hearing be the SS gears meshing together when cranking?

Bucktail · June 14, 2013, 03:16:33 AM

Thank you for the quick response Fish-aholic. As you can see I had it installed correctly, except for the retaining wire being under the connection arm (it should be over).

Unfortunately, even after I corrected that minor issue, the noise continues. Maybe I'm crazy and this is how they're supposed to sound.

Anyway, I made this short video in which you can hear the reel in action. Please let me know if this is normal or I need to open her up again.

Thanks,
Bob

SoCalAngler · June 14, 2013, 05:36:32 AM

They do make some sound but not as loud as yours, or maybe its my computer volume though. Open it up again and clean what ever grease is on the gears and replace with something thicker if you have it and see if that lessens the noise. It does sound like the pinion and main gear to me.

Bucktail · June 14, 2013, 05:27:12 PM

I just regreased it with the Yamaha marine grease. The pinion is new.

SoCalAngler · June 14, 2013, 06:18:42 PM

I just picked up a new SX last week and did a prefishing service to it, cleaned and relubed spool bearings with TSI 321, packed all other bearings with grease, greased drag washer and smeared grease here and there where needed. The reel does make a little noise like all Avets. It was kind of hard to tell how much noise your reel was making because I had to cranck up the volume on my computer to hear it. I could not compare it to like the sound of someones voice.

Edit: But, by the sound of the lever moving in and out of gear as a reference noise level you reels does sound a good deal louder than mine.

Bucktail · June 14, 2013, 06:46:55 PM

As chance would have it, I'm sitting here watching Roland Martin catching grouper with an Avet. And sure enough that reel is buzzing like a chainsaw! So, unless somebody else wants to chime in on this and tell me I'm wrong, I think I'll leave it for now and assume that's the way it's supposed to sound.

Thank you Fish-aholic and So Cal Angler for your help.

akfish · June 14, 2013, 06:50:39 PM

But Roland Martin was using and older MXL -- before Avet started using "silent" dogs. You reel should be pretty quiet. My guess is that the round wire that holds the dog spring is bent and thus the dog doesn't fit quite right.

Bucktail · June 14, 2013, 06:55:22 PM

So Cal, it looks like I was typing my response while you were editing yours. Ok. It looks like I will have to open her up again and check it out again.

Akfish, I guess you've seen that episode too huh?

I didn't think it was bent out of shape but I will look into it. Thanks.

Bryan Young · June 14, 2013, 08:31:53 PM

The pinion gear does seem small, like there's a gap between the pinion and the main gear...or is it a shadow. All the avets that I have worked on, it's a fairly snug fit between the main and pinion gear. I don't think it's coming from the anti-reverse pawl. That looks like it's positioned just fine.

Bryan Young · June 14, 2013, 10:42:09 PM

Aaron from Reelspeed indicated that it could also be the position of the plastic retainer on the main gear. You may want to check that out.

Bucktail · June 14, 2013, 11:29:40 PM

Quote from: Bryan Young on June 14, 2013, 08:31:53 PM
The pinion gear does seem small, like there's a gap between the pinion and the main gear...or is it a shadow. All the avets that I have worked on, it's a fairly snug fit between the main and pinion gear. I don't think it's coming from the anti-reverse pawl. That looks like it's positioned just fine.

The main gear is pushed out from the frame a little in that pic from standing it up on the table.

Quote from: Bryan Young on June 14, 2013, 10:42:09 PM
Aaron from Reelspeed indicated that it could also be the position of the plastic retainer on the main gear. You may want to check that out.

OK. I'll check that as well. Thanks.

Bryan Young · June 14, 2013, 11:34:57 PM

is the pinion gear backwards?

Jon_Kol · June 15, 2013, 10:04:27 AM

I've never replaced/fixed anything in an SX myself apart from maintenance of the reel, but looking at the photo - is the circled area a bit "off" compared to the other photo posted here? It almost looks like the retainer(?) is not fully centered?

Bucktail · June 15, 2013, 05:27:11 PM

Quote from: Bryan Young on June 14, 2013, 11:34:57 PM
is the pinion gear backwards?

No. That's the only way it fits.

Quote from: Bryan Young on June 14, 2013, 10:42:09 PM
Aaron from Reelspeed indicated that it could also be the position of the plastic retainer on the main gear. You may want to check that out.

Yeah, it's pushed out in that picture because the handle was off and it was leaning on the drive shaft. Even with everything seated correctly it's still buzzing.

Here's a new shot of it all put together.

If I get a chance later, I'll take it apart again and try to figure it out. Maybe, if you're lucky, I'll make another video.

Thanks for everyone's help on this.