Anybody know anything about this new Jigmaster gearset on ebay?

Started by Joel.B, August 28, 2013, 03:36:09 AM

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floating doc

So I guess they're ok. Good to know, but not good that he's undercutting Dawn. Smooth Drag! I wouldn't bid.
Central Florida

Dawn

Thanks Floating Doc  ;D
I will get it worked out with him. 

Bryan sent you a message.

Dawn
Dawn

Bryan Young

Have any of you wondered why one Stainless is selected over another. 

For example, I've heard that 301 is stronger than 304 but a a little less corrosion resistant.  316 has better corrosion resistance and has similar strength as 304...

These are things that I had to look at for creating my drag stacks, but not sure how the considerations would apply to gears.

I selected 301 stainless due to it's strength, and figure that the carbon fiber washers will be greased, so will have a low probablility of rust interfering with the drag system since many of us here actually service our own reels or have someone that service them to at least to the same caliber as Alan Tani does.
:D I talk with every part I send out and each reel I repair so that they perform at the top of their game. :D

Black Pearl

Quote from: Joel.B on August 30, 2013, 04:56:19 PM
Seller responded to my question from when they first listed  "Hi The gears are made by global precision in Taiwan. The parts are stainless steel 304 and are passivated?
Thank you."   

These look different to me than what Dawn is offering- the finish looks weird

I had to look up "passivated"   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivation_(chemistry)

The gear in the picture is for JM 505.

Bryan Young

What is JM?  The only time I saw JM referred to Jigging Master.
:D I talk with every part I send out and each reel I repair so that they perform at the top of their game. :D

Black Pearl

Quote from: Bryan Young on August 30, 2013, 05:19:47 PM
Have any of you wondered why one Stainless is selected over another. 

For example, I've heard that 301 is stronger than 304 but a a little less corrosion resistant.  316 has better corrosion resistance and has similar strength as 304...

These are things that I had to look at for creating my drag stacks, but not sure how the considerations would apply to gears.

I selected 301 stainless due to it's strength, and figure that the carbon fiber washers will be greased, so will have a low probablility of rust interfering with the drag system since many of us here actually service our own reels or have someone that service them to at least to the same caliber as Alan Tani does.

My resource told me that 316 has better strength 304. The price for the material is 50% difference.

Most tackle manufacturer like to use SS 303 because it is cheaper than 316 or 304.

Black Pearl


Bryan Young

:D I talk with every part I send out and each reel I repair so that they perform at the top of their game. :D

Black Pearl

Quote from: Bryan Young on August 30, 2013, 06:15:05 PM
Very interesting...  Thanks Joel and Alan.
There is one most important element when making fishing tackle gear set that it is expertise in fishing tackle. Just because a company has some machines to make gear set, it does not mean that it can make fishing gear set. There are a lot of thing going on in the back ground. You can not just send a gear set (eg, an Accurate) and has it copies by the shop. The shop needs to revert engineering the gear set and see if there is any improvements it can be made. When the gear set parts are finished, it must be tested and make sure all parts can be replaced the OEM parts without any alternation (simply is opening reel, removing OEM parts, installing replacement parts, greasing replacement parts, closing reel and ready for fishing).

You won't see any big company (PENN or Shimano) will ask any factory to make gears parts for it. Those companies know where they are. Trust me on that one.

Ron Jones

Joels post is why silicone bronze, or especially monel, is preferred in boat building. Stainless will fail if continously submerged.

Ron
Ronald Jones
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Black Pearl


Black Pearl

This seller (the same guy sold to Dawn at smooth drag) dropped the price like crazy. It is $29.95 while Charkbait is selling the same set for $39.99. It is a bargain.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190895781428?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

I would like to know if anyone bought from him. If so, can you tell us if it is ok.

floating doc

My take on it: I haven't tried them and by now you know my thoughts on where I would buy gears.

Sure it's a cheap price, but I would recommend sitting tight on your current pricing for the Black Pearl gears. I'll bet there's no comparison.
Central Florida

maxpowers

I ordered a set just to see while I await the set from Alan.  It came in today and although it looked good and felt strong it made a funny noise in my 506HS.   Sort of a clicking sound..  I pulled on it for a good 10 minutes at 15+ lbs

maxpowers

an update on the gear set:

the ring on the pinion popped off and i think that is what making the noise.  reel continued to pull well but the free spool suffered dramatically.