309 Gear Change

Started by FishermanTom81, November 14, 2013, 11:34:45 PM

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FishermanTom81

Is it possible to change the gears in a 309 so I can have a faster gear ratio?

Frank

Yes. Newell used to make a kit for doing this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171171022754?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

I'm sure forum members will reply with other options.
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broschro

You can get them from black pearl right here on this site. These will also fit the 500 505 and the  112h

akfish

Hmm. At the very least the faster gears will need a different yoke before they will work in a 309. I'm not sure that the inside diameter of the pinion gear fits the 309 spool either. I know hat you cannot put a Jigmaster or 112H pinion in a 309. They have the same main gear but very different sized pinions.
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floating doc

A 309 with the Black Pearl gears? That would be great!
Central Florida

alantani

i don't think they are interchangeable.  the penn 309 takes a 13-85 pinion gear, not a 13-500.   the diameters are different.   :-\
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floating doc

Thanks Alan. Seemed too good to be true.   :)
Central Florida

Frank

I'm just going by what Carl Newell had printed on the package. Here's another Newell kit. Click on 'see original listing' and refer to picture 3:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Newell-High-5-to-1-Speed-Reel-Gears-Penn-Reel-Newell-Reel-/200982366570?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ecb7b896a
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Frank

Here's a picture of the Newell kit package stating it will fit a Penn 309 - Strange.
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akfish

The drag washers fit; the gears do not.
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Frank

#10
Well I guess it won't fit then. Sorry about that.

This site states "Adaptable" whatever that means:

SPECIFICATIONS:

Model: Newell Part No. GK-1F
Gear Ratio: 5 to 1
Adaptable Reels: Penn Special Senator 112H 3/0, Penn Level Wind 309, Penn Jigmaster 500 and Penn Jigmaster 501

http://berinsontackle.com/products-page/4-reel-parts/newell-51-ratio-stainless-steel-gear-kit-gk-1f-for-penn-112h-500-501-reels-new/
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alantani

wierd.....  the pinion gears are clearly different.  anybody got both reels?
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Ron Jones

Can you use a 112H bridge i a 309 maybe? Similar to the Grouper Special.
Ron
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garking84

Has anyone figured out how to make these newell gears work on a 309? I have a 309 and I want to install these gears, I know the pinions are different. But I wonder why the paper says that newell gears work on 309??