Penn Jigmaster 500 Drag

Started by hrogers, November 17, 2015, 01:30:59 PM

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hrogers

I want to share the following with you.
I've tested all my multiplier reels drags with a scale.
One of the jigmasters I got for free drag washers was perished, I ordered new drag washers and still waiting for it.
I was curious to see what i can use as a temp till I got the drag washers. I used a industrial gasket to make the washers.
When I test all my reels the Jigmaster with the gasket washers pull the scale to 17 lb, the other jigmaster went up to 15 lb

Here is all the details :
Penn 500 Jigmaster 1                = 12
Penn Defiance                          = 11
Longbeach 67                           = 15
Jigmasterwith gasket washers    = 17
Penn Longbeach 268                  = 20
Penn 49 Wide spool                   = 11  ( Line snapped when drag was on max ) - will redo test after I replaced the line
Penn 49 narrow spool                = 15
Penn Jigmaster ( New )              = 15
Penn 310 GTi                            = 15
Daiwa sealine 50h                     = 12
Daiwa Firewolf 50 hi                  = 13
Daiwa SG 50h                           = 12 ( Line snapped ) Will redo test later on
Okuma convecto 45                   = 12
Okuma steeler (oucast steeler)    = 13
Okuma classic                           = 10   The classic and Steeler is the same reel - 

Now I'm wondering how long will the drag last that was made out of the packing ( gasket)
Did anybody else tried something different to use as a drag washer ??


foakes

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That will work just fine, Henry.

I have used gasket material on many occasions in the old days to make a drag stack -- particularly on a odd size drag disc.

Hoping you are greasing your drags liberally with a drag grease like Cal's?

The smoothness of the drags when the stack is compressed is silky and not jerky.  Plus, they will last much longer -- and perform better.

For the number of reels you have -- get a pound in the tub can.  If you have trouble obtaining the grease where you live -- one of us could help you get it.

Best,

Fred

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hrogers

Thanks for the reply Fred - I did use Cal's grease to grease washers - i ordered the cal's grease online - I was a bit disappointing there was only a 1/4 of grease in the holder. I don't have much left after I serviced all the reels - There is still one reel i must service.

gstours

Hello and thanks for posting these examples for all to see.  you did a lot of work and it took some time.
    This is why this AT forum is so great.   keep up the good work.      gst.

akadashoe

Quote from: hrogers on November 17, 2015, 03:55:43 PM
Thanks for the reply Fred - I did use Cal's grease to grease washers - i ordered the cal's grease online - I was a bit disappointing there was only a 1/4 of grease in the holder. I don't have much left after I serviced all the reels - There is still one reel i must service.

Scott's sells the 1 pound tubs, that's where I get mine

Ron Jones

The manufacturers specs for the material you used show minimum compression and expansion when put under pressure and immersed in liquid. It is also a fiber material with a butyl binder. I'd say it would be a really good drag material unless that butyl binder couldn't hold up to the friction (as this is a gasket material, no coefficient of friction was listed by the manufacturer.)
This was a lot of work and it looks like we all can learn something, thanks.
Ron
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bluefish69

I've use this type of Gasket Material for about 40 yrs. I does come in different thicknesses. It can be bought in any Plumbing Supply just ask for Composite Gasket Material. We ordered 4' X4' pcs. & larger if needed.

Mike
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Dawn

The green gasket material will pretty much shred, powder, with chunks coming off when it gets real hot.
If it doesn't get too hot it's okay.

Dawn
Dawn

mikeysm

I use that Garlock gasket material at work. It will turn brittle under heat and crack. Its basically ground up rock.