Any goodies for Senator 114 6/0

Started by Marcq, April 05, 2016, 01:17:30 AM

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Shark Hunter

#15
An Aluminum spool for the Black 114 is available Dave,
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/29L-114.aspx

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Marcq

#16
Quote from: Shark Hunter on April 05, 2016, 04:42:14 PM
An Aluminum spool for the Black 114 is available Dave,
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/29L-114.aspx

Phew!!I was sure I saw it available at scotts .I would have not gotten it with out being able to change for an aluminum  spool

Dave! You got me questioned myself for a minute  :-\  ;)
Marc..

Marcq

Quote from: RowdyW on April 05, 2016, 02:16:15 PM
Marc, the 114 will make a great Grouper reel  for the biggins. :D It will pull like a winch with it's 2 to 1 gearing.
Yeah that's what I was thinking with that low gearing  8)

Marc..

Marcq

Quote from: Bryan Young on April 05, 2016, 02:44:53 PM
I have one of these too.  I need to make a drag kit for them as they are excellent grouper reels, but there is a need for a little bit more drag to stop those monsters.
If not, anything close with a little modding that would fit?

Marc..

Bryan Young

Marc,

Let me see what I can do with just changing the HT-100s to Carbontex.

Bryan
:D I talk with every part I send out and each reel I repair so that they perform at the top of their game. :D

Marcq

Quote from: Bryan Young on April 05, 2016, 05:37:19 PM
Marc,

Let me see what I can do with just changing the HT-100s to Carbontex.

Bryan

Cool  8)

Thanks, Marc..

sdlehr

What's it take to remove the spindle from a chromed bronze spool? Would it be possible to swap spindles to make a 114 spool usable in a 114h? Would it be worth the trouble?

I saw Sal knocked a spindle out of a plastic spool; it was just press-fit, maybe with some adhesive, but it was a very tight fit. These are of different construction. Are the spindles on these spools one-piece, or are they threaded into each end?

Sid
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RowdyW

Why would you want to put a 114 spool in a 114H? Both options (aluminum & chrome/bronze) are already available for both reels.

foakes

Quote from: RowdyW on April 05, 2016, 07:31:56 PM
Why would you want to put a 114 spool in a 114H? Both options (aluminum & chrome/bronze) are already available for both reels.

Yep,

And any time I mess with a spool -- there is a good chance of it not ever running true again.

Once, I was able to straighten the end shaft on a 146 spool on a Squidder Jr. belonging to Aiala.

This takes at least ten minutes of careful observation, experience, luck, and knowing where another new replacement spool might be located.

This is a highly technical and classified operation involving a nylon faced hammer, and two careful blows.

We don't tell clients about this one.

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Fred
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Quote from: Shark Hunter on April 05, 2016, 04:42:14 PM
An Aluminum spool for the Black 114 is available Dave,
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/29L-114.aspx


I never knew Penn made an Aluminum Spool for the regular 114 . . . I still think it would be wise to give Scott's a call to confirm before plunking down $55 ( OUCH ) for a spool . . .

The reason I say that is it says "114 Fits All Versions" on Scott's website and I'm leery.

Also, it's possible that is for the newer "Chinese" Penn 114 reels . . . Have they made any changes ? Are they still "bushing" reels" ?

The SCHEMATIC for the 114L uses the word "BEARING" and not "BUSHING" fpr PRAT #'s 40 & 55  . . .  ( ATTACHED )

http://www.tyeemarine.com/product/reels/saltwater-multiple-action/saltwater-reel-0

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Shark Hunter

#25
The spool will fit Dave . The 114H has a different part number. I have a few 114's with aluminum spools.
This is the 114HL for the 114H.
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/29L-114HL.aspx
They actually made the Black 114 with a factory aluminum frame.


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#26
Quote from: ez2cdave on April 05, 2016, 11:04:31 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on April 05, 2016, 04:42:14 PM
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/29L-114.aspx


I never knew Penn made an Aluminum Spool for the regular 114 . . . I still think it would be wise to give Scott's a call to confirm before plunking down $55 ( OUCH ) for a spool . . .

The reason I say that is it says "114 Fits All Versions" on Scott's website and I'm leery.

Also, it's possible that is for the newer "Chinese" Penn 114 reels . . . Have they made any changes ? Are they still "bushing" reels" ?

http://www.tyeemarine.com/product/reels/saltwater-multiple-action/saltwater-reel-0

Tight Lines !
Good idea! You never know. But the newer model spool don't share the same part number, like the 114h spool is 29L-114HL and more expensive, and the Chinese version is 29-114H2 and less expensive one
I will contact them
Thanks, Marc..

ez2cdave

The SCHEMATIC for the 114L uses the word "BEARING" and not "BUSHING" fpr PART #'s 40 & 55  . . .  ( ATTACHED )



Marcq

Oops Daron you're too fast  :D
The full frame I guess is no longer available?

Marc..

Marcq

Quote from: ez2cdave on April 05, 2016, 11:36:11 PM
The SCHEMATIC for the 114L uses the word "BEARING" and not "BUSHING" fpr PART #'s 40 & 55  . . .  ( ATTACHED )



Same with the Jigmaster they call it a bearing but its a bushing

Marc