Shimano Stella 5000

Started by Wompus Cat, June 25, 2022, 05:19:13 PM

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Wompus Cat

Need one of these IF you know anyone or you have one .
No part Number I can find anywhere but it DOES come off the shaft .
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boon

Which series Stella?

I've seen a schematic which states in no uncertain terms not to remove that part from the spool shaft. It doesn't have a part number because you're supposed to buy the spool shaft and that block as a single part.

Wompus Cat

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Boon, all it says on this thing is Shimano SC66k Stella 5000.
You have to take the slider off to remove the   Shaft .One part number we found was RD20557 .
Nice lil Reel except for this  little crap metal part.
And everything on the Shimano Site says NOT to Take this Reel apart but  I NEVER LISTEN ............. that's how Mechanics Roll....lol
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philaroman

yeah, just noticed that there's no screw shown on schematic to take slider off shaft
that's two different metals, one being comparatively weak, corrosion-prone AL alloy

fine for little F/W reels, but attrocious for Stella SW 5000/6000

Midway Tommy

I'm gonna get my butt ripped here, but throw that pile of junk in the trash and be happy it's gone. Those things are so over rated I can hardly stand it. I would only take one for free only if I had a buyer already lined up for it, and then I'd feel guilty and probably warn him. 
Love those open face spinning reels! (Especially ABU & ABU/Zebco Cardinals)

Tommy D (ORCA), NE



Favorite Activity? ............... In our boat fishing
RELAXING w/ MY BEST FRIEND (My wife Bonnie)

philaroman

yes, Tom...  WAAAAAAY TOOOO MANY PARTS!!!
BUT, I'd keep the bronze gears (BOTH!!!), handle & spool, 
on the off chance they fit a simpler TwinPower/Sustain

boon

Is it even a Stella SW? The schematic you're working from is for a Stella C5000 as far as I can tell.

I've only worked on the SW models but I could get the spool shaft out without pulling the oscillation block off.

Quote from: Midway Tommy on June 26, 2022, 02:14:10 AMI'm gonna get my butt ripped here, but throw that pile of junk in the trash and be happy it's gone. Those things are so over rated I can hardly stand it. I would only take one for free only if I had a buyer already lined up for it, and then I'd feel guilty and probably warn him.

How do you figure? I might be biased due to owning a couple but I fish mine hard and they've been nothing but reliable and the performance is exceptional.

Wompus Cat

Quote from: boon on June 26, 2022, 09:48:25 PMIs it even a Stella SW? The schematic you're working from is for a Stella C5000 as far as I can tell.

I've only worked on the SW models but I could get the spool shaft out without pulling the oscillation block off.

Quote from: Midway Tommy on June 26, 2022, 02:14:10 AMI'm gonna get my butt ripped here, but throw that pile of junk in the trash and be happy it's gone. Those things are so over rated I can hardly stand it. I would only take one for free only if I had a buyer already lined up for it, and then I'd feel guilty and probably warn him.

How do you figure? I might be biased due to owning a couple but I fish mine hard and they've been nothing but reliable and the performance is exceptional.

It is a Shimano SC66k Stella 5000
The picture I posted is for reference and depicts the actual piece that is broken  and on this Reel I have in my posession there are 2 pins going throgh the piece and two screws on the under side . 1 is a slot screw that goes all the way through the Shaft  the other is a VERY SMALL allen that locks the slider on the shaft so you HAVE to remove the pins to rotate the slider around to get to the screws soooooooo in theory you can leave the piece I need laying in the housing to remove the shaft but why would you .
I do not have a schematic that ACTUALLY  says
Shimano SC66k Stella 5000 but the pic I posted sure LOOKS like the guts I have .
I may try and make one outa aluminum .Trial and error
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Gfish

Quote from: Midway Tommy on June 26, 2022, 02:14:10 AMI'm gonna get my butt ripped here, but throw that pile of junk in the trash and be happy it's gone. Those things are so over rated I can hardly stand it. I would only take one for free only if I had a buyer already lined up for it, and then I'd feel guilty and probably warn him. 
😁 And you don't fish in saltwater!
Fishing tackle is an art form and all fish caught on the right tackle are"Gfish"!

Midway Tommy

I knew it,  ;D  but then I've never been a Shimano or Daiwa fan.  :d 
Love those open face spinning reels! (Especially ABU & ABU/Zebco Cardinals)

Tommy D (ORCA), NE



Favorite Activity? ............... In our boat fishing
RELAXING w/ MY BEST FRIEND (My wife Bonnie)

ReelClean

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I haven't struck many yet that you couldn't get the shaft out in one piece, but you always have to remove the pinion gear and it's supporting bearing/bush and that allows the shaft enough movement to tilt clear of the body and slide out the back.  In fact, often you can't get the main gear and the (usually) stuck-to-the-shaft bearing out of the RH sideplate without displacing the shaft out of normal alignment.  Is this one different?
cheers
Steve
Specialist Daiwa reel service, including Magseal.

Wompus Cat

Quote from: ReelClean on June 27, 2022, 08:52:16 AMI haven't struck many yet that you couldn't get the shaft out in one piece, but you always have to remove the pinion gear and it's supporting bearing/bush and that allows the shaft enough movement to tilt clear of the body and slide out the back.  In fact, often you can't get the main gear and the (usually) stuck-to-the-shaft bearing out of the RH sideplate without displacing the shaft out of normal alignment. Is this one different?  YEPPER !!!!
cheers
Steve

The ONLY way to get the shaft out on this without removing the Slider would be to cut it in Half.
BTW the main gear comes right out no problemo .


Maybe we are refering to differnt parts here .
The Shaft (what the Spool Fits On) has a piece (pictured above ) in this thread is which  attached to it with 2 screws and without removing them you just ain't gonna get the shaft out of the frame. And you ain't gonna get those 2 screws out without removeing the 2  long pinds from the back of the housing which line everything up withe the worm gear and pawl holding slider thingamajig.
Well built Reel with lots of bearings and gaskets but piece of CRAP pot metal Slider is it's Achilles Heel .
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philaroman

Quote from: Wompus Cat on June 27, 2022, 04:44:46 PMThe ONLY way to get the shaft out on this without removing the Slider would be to cut it in Half.
BTW the main gear comes right out no problemo .


 I've never seen that on any older/cheaper Shimano,
unless the pinion bearing is frozen, or it's a rear-drag shaft w/ crossbar
(or really old 80's model w/ permanent spool-cam on shaft)
sometimes, shaft+slider has to be at highest oscillation, for best wiggle-room


Midway Tommy

Quote from: Wompus

Don't think it is a CHEAP REEL ..........
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Price wise, not so much. Quality wise, your pot metal example tells me all I need to know.  :o
Love those open face spinning reels! (Especially ABU & ABU/Zebco Cardinals)

Tommy D (ORCA), NE



Favorite Activity? ............... In our boat fishing
RELAXING w/ MY BEST FRIEND (My wife Bonnie)