408 line weights and capacity

Started by sandbar, September 18, 2022, 03:44:04 AM

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sandbar

Does anyone have the manual for a 408 that gives line weights and capacities?

foakes

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408 & 308 have the same line capacities, Steve —-

But, of course you know —- there are (2) spools for these little reels —- deep & shallow.

Here are the specs on both.

Best, Fred
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sandbar

Thank You Fred
I guess I will need to determine which spools I have.
I don't own any 4lb line.

Midway Tommy

4# line isn't terrible, but I've always thought it was tough to see & tie, plus, depending on the make, it has a tendency to cut itself on the knots.
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Donnyboat

Interesting Tommy, so what knot could be used, you preference, cheers Don.
Don, or donnyboat

philaroman

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Quote from: Midway Tommy on September 19, 2022, 03:23:29 AM4# line isn't terrible, but I've always thought it was tough to see & tie, plus, depending on the make, it has a tendency to cut itself on the knots.

doesn't 6# coil too much, on all your beautiful UL's w/ tiny spool diameters?
try 4# "Ice" lines...  tiny bit thicker & tougher than regular 4#
AND smaller spools make it cheaper to experiment


Quote from: Donnyboat on September 19, 2022, 11:03:54 PMInteresting Tommy, so what knot could be used, you preference, cheers Don.

my fav light mono terminal knot is Becker/Orvis -- a bit bulky,
but among strongest & tag end points "down" to catch less rock-snot
https://www.101knots.com/orvis-knot.html
can tigten extra & stop at Step 6, for good temporary loop
ignore final Step 8 -- if you sinch it tight, tag end will be approx 45* angle to hook-shank
can trim long for weak weed-guard


Midway Tommy

So, I exclusively use any/all of the Cardinal 3 variations for my UL with 6# Clear Trilene XL. I've really never felt line memory was an issue with that combo, but then I don't fish trout with a spinner. If I haven't used the outfit for a few months I'll hook it on a tree and stretch it. Takes about 5 minutes.

As far as knots go, I'll use a loop knot on the line end of a leader where it connects to a swivel, but every other knot I tie, hooks, lures, jigs, swivels, etc., is a Palomar. Overall, they're the strongest and most versatile, plus they're quick and simple to tie. The type of fishing I do doesn't necessitate joining two lines together except for backing and I never have to worry about getting to the backing knot.
Love those open face spinning reels! (Especially ABU & ABU/Zebco Cardinals)

Tommy D (ORCA), NE



Favorite Activity? ............... In our boat fishing
RELAXING w/ MY BEST FRIEND (My wife Bonnie)

sandbar


foakes

I use 4 & 6 lb. Trilene XT mono —- and so far in 40+ years of fishing since Trilene became available —- have never had the line break at a knot.

But I change out my line annually —- and I tie simple but proven knots.

Most of my fishing has been for trout & bass.  And mostly average to smaller fish.

But I have landed many fish in the 5-6 pound class, and one a little over 12.

Best, Fred
The Official, Un-Authorized Service and Restoration Center for quality vintage spinning reels.

D-A-M Quick, Penn, Mitchell, and ABU/Zebco Cardinals

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"Enjoy the little things in Life — For someday, you may look back — and realize that they were the big things"
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DougK

4lb Maxima is what I used on my 308 for forty years, the small spool holds 100m which makes everything simple. Good old improved clinch or uniknot worked fine. Biggest thing caught on that was a 15lb carp, which ran out to the spool knot.. still surprised that everything held ;-)

Nowadays using Daiwa J-braid 8 in 8lb, Red Phillips knot to about 3ft of 6lb Seaguar Red fluoro, then a San Diego Jam knot to the snap or lure. I had to learn new knots for braid and fluorocarbon.

Balvar24

I've been using 2lb.  As long as the drag is working, I've had good luck.  Casts farther than 4 lb.

handi2

Why not the improved clinch knot?

The improved clinch knot has a knot on the end of it so it can't come loose.

You can't pull Knot thru a knot

The simple arbor knot is fine
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Gfish

M.G. Spools from days of yore. Note the icons for shallow vs deep. From a 1940's 300, drag knobs made out of aluminum. I guess if they are both full of line you can still grab the right one.
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cbamer

Those are really cool, especially if you're trying buy one at a yard sale that is full of old line...

scrinch

Quote from: Balvar24 on February 17, 2023, 05:05:53 AMI've been using 2lb.  As long as the drag is working, I've had good luck.  Casts farther than 4 lb.
I've found 2lb works fine for Sierra pan sized trout unless my line gets caught on a rock, log, weed, etc. I definitely get bit more with 2lb than with 4lb or 6lb where I fish.