A collection of failures

Started by Metallkopf, November 20, 2024, 07:02:41 PM

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Metallkopf

Hello Friends, I guess this will be the right place to share my project with two abused DAM Quick Super Reels that have found their way to my table.
Both reels came in bad shape so I decided to make one shine again and usable for saltwater fishing.
Lets start with #2 that has a damaged main gear, worn out bushings and broken foot but some usable parts that are missing in the first one.

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The day I opened it up, the brass gear was attached to the handle shaft using a bent and shortened nail that didnt fix it tightly enough so it would wander around like a mm. When i removed the gear and tried to pull the shaft from the AR housing, the whole bushing came out instead of the shaft. It was so pitted and worn in that it needed a press to finally pull these two apart. The little lever steering the AR dog is broken off right at the base. The AR housing is cleaned and sandblasted already as it was heavily corroded and I had it in the pockets when preparing other parts from the first reel.
I didnt manage to remove the main bearing on this one yet, i used the rotor nut to get better leverage but left it alone after some trials in fear to destroy the reels body. Rotor and bail is in good condition comparing it to the other parts of this reel. After all the little needle roller that sit on the secondary gear, the small washer below it and the handle screw will later be used to make the first one complete.

quang tran

I have a part reel that should supply all parts to repair that reel , its free if you need just pay for shipping

Metallkopf

I recieved #1 functional but in bad outer condition before I found this place so im sorry there are no pictures of it like the day it came to me. The reel was lacking the roller sleeve for the oscillation gear and as you can see in the pictures a piece of the rotors bail trip mechanism that secures the Trip lever from below was broken off and filed flat.
I have opportunity to use someones sandblaster cabin and powdercoating equipment so the parts of this reel were torn apart and cleaned completely:

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foakes

Good work!

I have plenty of parts for the DQ's in nearly every model —- 270 parts are no problem.  Maybe 300K+ vintage DQ parts

Those gears, oil lite bushings, and bearings have to be right —- or the reel never will be right.

270 is possibly the toughest HD spinner ever produced by any manufacturer.  No shortcuts —- just the strongest materials.

If anything would be of help —- just let me know and I would get a shipment together for you.

Best, Fred
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Metallkopf

Have you ever seen the metal drag knob taken apart?

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The parts soaking in silicone remover before coating

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I can only use whats left over and on the menue here, in this case matte black and a shiny grey to choose from. I baked the parts for 30 min @ 200°c. The bushings and threads were protected with tiny rolls of gasket paper.

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Really happy with the results for a first one, there are few imperfections inside the rotor cup and the counter weight didnt do well, seems there was oil left in the porous Cast material.

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Metallkopf

Quote from: foakes on November 20, 2024, 07:44:48 PMGood work!

I have plenty of parts for the DQ's in nearly every model —- 270 parts are no problem.  Maybe 300K+ vintage DQ parts

Those gears, oil lite bushings, and bearings have to be right —- or the reel never will be right.

270 is possibly the toughest HD spinner ever produced by any manufacturer.  No shortcuts —- just the strongest materials.

If anything would be of help —- just let me know and I would get a shipment together for you.

Best, Fred

Happy to meet you, man  :d

Your offer ist ringing my ears, i'll need some time to make up a complete list of parts as there are some more 'Patienten' on the bench. Thank you :)

Those are the internals i will use for the modified reel, theres quite some wear and pitting but it may hold up some more fish...

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Right now im waiting for the new main bearing in the mail, then its time to build back together.


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The worn and bent one is reel #1, guess how many turns did it take to shape it like that?  :o
The matching plastic handle is in perfect condition.






Metallkopf

The new bearing came in the mail, its a SKF 609 RSH, fitted on the pinion with a bit of force but didnt need to press it in with help of tools. Seems their tolerance was tighter back in the days.
 
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I put it all back together, the handle shaft pin and the one fixing the main gear was the worst part of this journey


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The drag stack remains original as function of the drag is very good, next step is building a modified fixed line roller without bail and i'll try to make a round handle knob from turned olive wood for it  ^-^

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Best regards :d







thorhammer

Wow! Stellar!!! Where are you, my friend?

Metallkopf

Quote from: thorhammer on November 22, 2024, 12:48:57 PMWow! Stellar!!! Where are you, my friend?

Thank you, Im located in central Germany, homeland of the quicks...
 

foakes

Excellent work, Lauer!

Best, Fred
The Official, Un-Authorized Service and Restoration Center for quality vintage spinning reels.

D-A-M Quick, Penn, Mitchell, and ABU/Zebco Cardinals

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foakes

#10
Lots of ways to makeshift a Manual Pick Up instead of a spring-loaded bail.  (PUM).

Here is what the engineers did at the factory —-

Best, Fred
The Official, Un-Authorized Service and Restoration Center for quality vintage spinning reels.

D-A-M Quick, Penn, Mitchell, and ABU/Zebco Cardinals

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jtwill98

It turned out looking Great! 

Fred's idea of using a PUM is an excellent idea for the rotor that had the piece filed flat.   

Metallkopf

@foakes, i've never seen these factory kits before or did i know they existed, what a great contribution :al 
The last part of the manual, that tells the stock angle lever will not operate the manual Pickup properly, does it mean theres a geometrical difference between the stock and this one youve shown?
I only see this washer to fix the lever from still being rotated, so i guess one can still pull it down with some force in   case of powerful distance casting?

Is the shape like this one?
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foakes

Contrary to what the PUM manual states —- an original angle lever could be simply modified to eliminate the bail wire.

One small part would need to be constructed.

The other way is to keep the spring in place and just eliminate the bail wire.  As you mentioned, in the case of a long cast with a heavy weight, the stationary PUM would not interfere with the cast.

The factory add-on PUM is designed to be stationary however.

Best, Fred
The Official, Un-Authorized Service and Restoration Center for quality vintage spinning reels.

D-A-M Quick, Penn, Mitchell, and ABU/Zebco Cardinals

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If your feeling down and don't know what to do
     Just hold on til tomorrow
Let go of the past
     Wrap your dreams around you
Live every day like it's your last

Milan S

Metallkopf,
You did a great job. What kind of white grease did you use for lubrication?