Stand Up Rod Fixed Collar Cracked

Started by MACflyer, January 21, 2026, 10:28:31 PM

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MACflyer

It's a solid fiberglass Sea Striker Billfisher, $80 rod at best, that cost me $0. The fixed collar at the front of the reel seat is cracking near the thinner part of the collar where the reel stand slides in. Any way to repair without removing gimbal, smooth butt, and threaded barrel? If all hardware needs removed, any concerns about heating the smooth butt? Debating whether to use as is, or harvest the nice turbo guides, or try and repair? Appreciate any insight.
Rick

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jtwill98

I'm not sure of its purpose, but if it is only cosmetic, then you should be able to wrap it with carbon fiber cloth and epoxy.

MACflyer

Quote from: jtwill98 on January 21, 2026, 11:00:32 PMI'm not sure of its purpose, but if it is only cosmetic, then you should be able to wrap it with carbon fiber cloth and epoxy.

John, the collar holds the front of the reel stand. I would think the rear sliding collar would take more stress under pressure, but I'm guessing.
Rick

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oldmanjoe

 It is strange that it is cracking there .  Could be salt corrosion at the bottom of the foot of the hood ?   Does it open up with a reel attached and flexing it ?

 Might get away with wrapping it like a guide .  Than there is a nice fix if you can find this .
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jtwill98

Quote from: MACflyer on January 21, 2026, 11:50:44 PMthe collar holds the front of the reel stand

In that case, it can't be trusted and will need to be replaced or repaired as Joe suggested.  Any twisting of the reel will likely end in it breaking and possibility losing a reel. 

JasonGotaProblem

Someone probably over tightened it with a beefy reel in there and it was the hood that gave first.

Wouldn't most reels used with such a rod have a clamp?
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MACflyer

Quote from: oldmanjoe on January 22, 2026, 12:07:28 AMIt is strange that it is cracking there .  Could be salt corrosion at the bottom of the foot of the hood ?   Does it open up with a reel attached and flexing it ?

Joe it doesn't seem to open up with a reel attached and flexing it. I don't think the crack is all the way through the collar (yet).
Rick

Two rules on the boat
1. Fish where the fish are
2. See rule #1

MACflyer

Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on January 22, 2026, 01:42:16 AMSomeone probably over tightened it with a beefy reel in there and it was the hood that gave first.

Wouldn't most reels used with such a rod have a clamp?

I'm thinking it was overtightened too.
Rick

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1. Fish where the fish are
2. See rule #1

MACflyer

Quote from: jtwill98 on January 22, 2026, 12:28:43 AM
Quote from: MACflyer on January 21, 2026, 11:50:44 PMthe collar holds the front of the reel stand

In that case, it can't be trusted and will need to be replaced or repaired as Joe suggested.  Any twisting of the reel will likely end in it breaking and possibility losing a reel. 

I would not trust it either with one of my better reels.
Rick

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1. Fish where the fish are
2. See rule #1

oc1

Does the reel have harness lugs.  Pulling on the reel instead of pulling on the rod might do that. 

Wrap it with 20 lb braided nylon using a locking hitch.  Pull each wrap tight to impart some stretch in the line.  Then epoxy coat.  I'd use it with confidence.

Keta

Because I have the Unibuts I would cut and remove the reel seat and put a ferrule on it but the cost of a Unibut and ferrule are far more than the rod is worth.
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oldmanjoe

 :)   Looking at it again blown up , it starting to look like a stain .   Just like the bloch to the left of it .    Maybe try masking it off and hit it with vinegar.  How do you take pictures , can you blow it up with your  phone before snapping a picture ?
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking .   There are too many people who think that the only thing that!s right is to get by,and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught .
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
" I cannot teach anybody anything   I can only make them think "     - Socrates-
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

MACflyer

Quote from: Keta on January 22, 2026, 01:35:02 PMBecause I have the Unibuts I would cut and remove the reel seat and put a ferrule on it but the cost of a Unibut and ferrule are far more than the rod is worth.

Looked at the uni butts as a possible fix, but way too expensive for this rod.
Rick

Two rules on the boat
1. Fish where the fish are
2. See rule #1

MACflyer

Quote from: oldmanjoe on January 22, 2026, 02:09:00 PM:)   Looking at it again blown up , it starting to look like a stain .   Just like the bloch to the left of it .    Maybe try masking it off and hit it with vinegar.  How do you take pictures , can you blow it up with your  phone before snapping a picture ?

Hoping you were right Joe, so cut away a little foam in front of the collar and it's definitely a crack. Crack goes all the way through the collar: about 1/8", as collar is thinner up front. Think I'm just going to cannibalize the guides. Appreciate everyone's input.
Rick

Two rules on the boat
1. Fish where the fish are
2. See rule #1

MACflyer

Final message. Removed the turbo guides and although they looked pretty, after removing them, they seem pretty low grade. Took an old screwdriver and put it in the reel foot slot of the cracked collar. Started prying up and it split completely with probably less than 20lbs of force. Clear understanding now why the MSRP on this rod is $79.
Rick

Two rules on the boat
1. Fish where the fish are
2. See rule #1