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Quote from: Penn on June 22, 2026, 04:12:09 PMLots of random Google images, stolen images and incorrect info that AI scrounged the web for that have nothing to do with Mitchell, PENN, Hardy, Abu, etc.  Some of it is factual thanks to general public info or books published.  Let's not make this guy famous by sharing these inaccurate videos. 

tony

This was my take exactly. I didn't need to see more. There is virtually no work or fact-checking behind these videos. Or at least the two I started to watch. Apologies to Joe, and those that may be enjoying these videos. I found them greatly, terminally, lacking. And a little incensed that so little work, or fact-checking, was applied in their "making".

As to AI... the only issue I have with it is that it literally steals the information we all work hard to obtain and share. Many people now read the AI synopsis and don't go to the sources that actually generate that knowledge. I wonder how traffic is being affected on many good websites, such as Wikipedia?

That said, my family has been using AI searches for medical, legal, and technical research. It's been very useful, even valuable. In one case it has saved our lawyer a ton of time and us a ton of money (we couldn't have afforded otherwise). Our lawyers job is then to apply his fact-checking expertise, tweak the language, and issue the official documents.

Will AI replace, doctors, lawyers, and technicians? Not yet anyway. But, my brother described his experience at work (as a network administrator in a large corp) where a problem arises in the network. AI will identify the problem and then ask, "Do you want me to fix it?" This could lead to a loss of technician jobs. Remains to be seen where that goes.

How responsible are the AI developers? From our AI research for legal language for our property, Google obviously sold our phone numbers to cold callers. We've each been getting 6-8 cold calls a day from "mortgage lenders" for the past two weeks. We aren't looking for a mortgage lender! Can't talk to the callers to tell them they're making a mistake bc they are all AI robot calls that try to sound as though they are real humans.

Also, our internet connection has slowed down noticeably over the past few months. I suspect that AI use over the entire cellular network may be sucking up bandwidth. Apparently, one AI search eats up much more bandwidth (10 to 15 times more per query, according to Google AI). More bandwidth will be needed. We will be paying for the infrastructure costs.

Powerful, valuable, yes. Affordable? Will everyone be able to benefit?

The cold callers use to infuriate me,I have ringtones for my friends & family for the most part.If I dont know the number now my phone has this call assist thingy that pops up I let the
spammer get a taste of their own medicine.I did read though if you answer some bots are just fishing for viable phone numbers to sell...They should all be kicked in the nuts from behind IMO

Including AI ba-ha-ha

Quote from: Paul Roberts on June 28, 2026, 06:45:36 PM

Quote from: Penn on June 22, 2026, 04:12:09 PMLots of random Google images, stolen images and incorrect info that AI scrounged the web for that have nothing to do with Mitchell, PENN, Hardy, Abu, etc.  Some of it is factual thanks to general public info or books published.  Let's not make this guy famous by sharing these inaccurate videos. 

tony

This was my take exactly. I didn't need to see more. There is virtually no work or fact-checking behind these videos. Or at least the two I started to watch. Apologies to Joe, and those that may be enjoying these videos. I found them greatly, terminally, lacking. And a little incensed that so little work, or fact-checking, was applied in their "making".

 

I take no offence , I read with  a open mind and analyze  everything .  I take the time to fact check things that are questionable in my mind  .  Some say I have more common sense than 10  people put together




As to AI... the only issue I have with it is that it literally steals the information we all work hard to obtain and share. Many people now read the AI synopsis and don't go to the sources that actually generate that knowledge. I wonder how traffic is being affected on many good websites, such as Wikipedia?



lazy herd mentality  ?




That said, my family has been using AI searches for medical, legal, and technical research. It's been very useful, even valuable. In one case it has saved our lawyer a ton of time and us a ton of money (we couldn't have afforded otherwise). Our lawyers job is then to apply his fact-checking expertise, tweak the language, and issue the official documents.



Some information is useful, and worth looking in to ...



Will AI replace, doctors, lawyers, and technicians? Not yet anyway. But, my brother described his experience at work (as a network administrator in a large corp) where a problem arises in the network. AI will identify the problem and then ask, "Do you want me to fix it?" This could lead to a loss of technician jobs. Remains to be seen where that goes.


One of my fears is what are the new unemployed people going to do for a living now  .



How responsible are the AI developers? From our AI research for legal language for our property, Google obviously sold our phone numbers to cold callers. We've each been getting 6-8 cold calls a day from "mortgage lenders" for the past two weeks. We aren't looking for a mortgage lender! Can't talk to the callers to tell them they're making a mistake bc they are all AI robot calls that try to sound as though they are real humans.


That does piss me off , the messages are like I have ask for this information .  Block them spam reports , it still keeps coming .



Also, our internet connection has slowed down noticeably over the past few months. I suspect that AI use over the entire cellular network may be sucking up bandwidth. Apparently, one AI search eats up much more bandwidth (10 to 15 times more per query, according to Google AI). More bandwidth will be needed. We will be paying for the infrastructure costs.

Powerful, valuable, yes. Affordable? Will everyone be able to benefit?

My take and position on this AI garbage is that most of us existed and survived just fine prior to its development. All it took was a little patience, research and intelligence to figure the answers  to issues someone was looking for. I don't see a whole lot of benefits to getting information that includes a disclaimer that some of its information may be incorrect.

Don't ever forget that many of the areas that AI has mined have been changed, revised and/or rewritten by various levels of academia and other entities over the last four or five decades. The facts of history have been changed quite a bit for reason over that period of time.

AI has worked for me, but I have to use it judiciously. It's been a-while since I had to get a new automotive battery, ai reminded me to check on the RC(reserve capacity) and then recommended the right(?) amount for my vehicle. It seems some things have enough accessible knowledge out there for it to help, without the inaccurate/incomplete information.

 Here's a very ironic tidbit of A eye...
 
 I've been logged in on ebay for a couple years. A few days ago I noticed I wasn't logged in anymore. So I went to log in, and I had to pass a few tests to make sure I wasn't a robot. Those tests CAME FROM A ROBOT.

  Quote from Forest Gump "stupid is as stupid does"

Quote from: Gfish on June 29, 2026, 04:31:23 PMAI has worked for me, but I have to use it judiciously. It's been a-while since I had to get a new automotive battery, ai reminded me to check on the RC(reserve capacity) and then recommended the right(?) amount for my vehicle. It seems some things have enough accessible knowledge out there for it to help, without the inaccurate/incomplete information.

If the AI told you the right RC was 40, would you have believed it? What if it said 80? 200? 6000?

Either you blindly believe it and hope that it hasn't just invented a number, or you go and independently check on the output, or you know enough about the subject to know that what it's saying is OK. In the first instance you risk it being completely wrong, and in the other two you would have saved time (and electricity) by not asking it in the first place.

Um - hmmm. First and foremost ai reminded me of a couple of aspects I forgot about; Reserve capacity and date of manufacture. These were AI's recommendations; at least 140min. and within the last 3 months. If possible, a 1-year full replacement warranty.
Got one today rated at 150min. RC, a crappy pro-rated (for time) 2-year warranty and the sticker on top said 05/26.
But!, those first 2 things are what the store dude looked-up for me after "my best new buddy(ai)" reminded me to ask about.
The sales persons can lie, someone could switch the Date of manufacture sticker, corporate can lie or omit pertinent info.. Heck, even the battery tester(state of charge and "state of health"-I don't even know what that one means, specific gravity of all the cells?) can be purposely mis-calibrated.
All I can test in the store is the voltage with my cheap DMM and it agreed with the store tester. I got the feeling that the store dude is used to people just buying the right group size and heading out the door-on home to do the installation. I just made him work and kept asking questions.
Yeah, I'm starting like AI more and more.

Come-on boon, repent and turn, believe,... ai is waiting for you...

So, flock cameras, facial recognition, a cloud that saves your every communication, television that's watching you, what could possibly go wrong

Back in the good old days before A.I., we used to say that you can't believe everything you see on the internet.  We used to comment on how Google was scouring the entire internet on a regular basis and sweeping up everything without our consent. 

For an internet forum, A.I. is just a much more robust search engine.  That increased technological robustness has real-world costs to us in terms of electricity use, water use, noise pollution, job loss and all sorts of impacts that get little attention.  It's not like you get something for nothing.

The attempt to be personable and seemingly predict our needs is new, but really just window dressing.

I suspect A.I. is just a natural extension of the Third Industrial Revolution (aka Digital Age, Computer Age, Silicon Age).  This third industrial Revolution began in our lifetime   The Second Industrial Revolution began 1870.  The First Industrial Revolution (aka the Industrial Revolution) began in 1760.   Calling it the :First Industrial Revolution ignores details like the Bronze age.

Ha ha ha! I just told a/eye it was wrong lol. And then it went on to say. You are completely right. I apologize for doubling down on misinformation. I hallucinated that elaborate back story etc etc lol.

Quote from: Swami805 on June 30, 2026, 05:00:51 AMSo, flock cameras, facial recognition, a cloud that saves your every communication, television that's watching you, what could possibly go wrong

Good question Swami. It don't godda be some LEO's hammering on my door with a warrant. Could be much more subtle. I saw the other day in a 7-11 they scanned an id. for the purchase of tobacco. Not just check for age, but scanned it into the register. Will that persons medical ins. premium go-up when the company gets a red flag warning added to his medical record? Will they not pay-out on a claim for emphazima treatments on-down the line. Suppose it depends on how he answered that one on the medical questionnaire.
I asked 'em about it and all they would say was "it's company policy". No scan, no sale.

Quote from: Gfish on June 30, 2026, 09:49:35 PMI asked 'em about it and all they would say was "it's company policy". No scan, no sale.

I hope you replied "No sale" and walked out. Personally, I would have told them, "You just lost a customer," and left right then and there. I've done similar things at other businesses where staff were too busy on the phone or took a call right while I was standing in front of them.

It's a major pet peeve of mine. When I was a retail manager in my mid-twenties, I made it crystal clear to my staff that under no circumstances should they ever drop an in-person customer for a phone call.

Is worse than that Greg, that phone in your pocket can detect heart anomalies,tremors associated with Parkinson's and all sorts of stuff useful to your insurance company. Watch your insurance rates climb or just cancel it altogether. The level of surveillance is a bit scary.