okuma andros 5 II rebuild

Started by alantani, March 05, 2011, 04:57:27 AM

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madday

new andros narrow is out already?
somebody have clue on it and about what will be the difference with the wide one?

Reelz

How is the side load once you tighten it? I'm gonna use it for local yellowtain/whitesea bass/tuna. I'm torn between the makaira 8ii and this.

SoCalAngler

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Not sure where your fishing but it sounds like my neck of the woods with the fish mentioned. When you say "local" in my mind those are trips from 1 to 3 days in length when fishing out of San Diego or to the local islands in So Cal.

Let me say I have not fished a Andros yet but have talked to several who have. They mostly use them for 30lb test line and you could bump it up to 40lb topshots but not much need for that for the "local" fish. They tell me 15lbs at strike with freespool is right so side load would not be a problem for our local stuff, I mainly use 25lb sometimes 30 for the fish mentioned in that range. On my lever drag reels that I fish 40lb test on, mostly further down Baja and in the Sea of Cortez I set my drags at 10lbs at strike which allows me more drag pressure by moving the lever past strike if needed. So I don't see you having side load issues for the "local" stuff.

alantani

on my last trip, the fish were pretty small.  the andros got the most work.  it was strung with 50# spectra and a 40# topshot with 12 #'s of drag.  it's a much lighter reel than the makaira 8 or 10 and casts beautifully!
send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!

Reelz

I fish off La Jolla and we are blessed to have yellowtail fishing year round and occasional whitesea bass fishing. But tuna we have to go 60 miles out, I should have been more specific. But its gonna used for flyline/yoyo. I can get an andros for a really good price, but I want a reel with no side load. I have JX, LD 20 and just want to try something different. I know I dont need all that drag for local fishing but I'm also gonna be using it this summer to get bigger tunas. No one seems to have the makaira's 8 or 10 in stock in my area, so can't actually compare them in person.

alantani

get the andros, string it with straight 60# spectra, tie on a short topshot of 30, 40, or 50# fluoro and set the drags to 30%.  i'm guessing it will soon become your favorite reel. 
send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!

SoCalAngler

Reelz,
Know the area well, the kelp off La Jolla can hold some nice biscuits (white saebass) and mossbacks (yellowtail). 60 miles out you must be fishing around the Dumper, 60 mile and Butterfly banks which can hold some nice tuna but not so much as of the last few years. Check Charkbait in San Diego they should have both reels if you want to do a side by side match up.

Reelz

Thanks for the suggestion guys. Funny you mentioned charkbait, I called them this afternoon and they have makaira 8 and 10 SE availbable. I'm gonna check them out tomorrow so I can compare them.

madday

dear alan,

found this angular bearing today....
http://www.origin.co.jp/product/up_file/ja/200704091.pdf
it seems the AC6-16 could replace the left side spool bearing, so it would reducing the binding right?
probably have to enlarge the diameter by 0.5 mm, should be no prob....  ;D

what about changing the right main side frame bearing too....?
this can be a good project.....  ;D

alantani

just did a quick check of the shimano tld's and the sizes did not match.  interesting.  they are very close to the proper size, so the technology is there.   :-\
send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!

madday

yes, i always wonder the same too.....  ???

andros with 2 angular bearing is a killer reel...... dear okuma, why....?? why.....??
its cheap... and easy.....  ???

paal

Quote from: madday on February 11, 2013, 06:42:19 AM
yes, i always wonder the same too.....  ???
andros with 2 angular bearing is a killer reel...... dear okuma, why....?? why.....??
its cheap... and easy.....  ???
I agree, for trolling or jigging! I just replaced two expensive Ezo bearings on my Andros today, they were getting a bit rough. Pulled the shields off, no corrosion. So it was just reeling at 10lbs of drag that produced this roughness over time. It might not been strictly necessary to replace them yet, but didn't want to risk bearing failure at the worst possible moment.

I am looking for angular contact bearings that have the correct dimension for the Andros. The only ones I've found so far are 0.5mm too wide (ID/OD is right). It might be possible to shave off 0.5mm of the right side plate, and prime with aluminum primer. For the left spool bearing it might be possible to shave a bit off the plastic ratchet. But there's a possibility for failure here, so I'd rather get bearings with correct dimensions :)

Tight lines!
Paal

madday

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Quote from: paal on February 23, 2013, 08:31:48 AM

I am looking for angular contact bearings that have the correct dimension for the Andros. The only ones I've found so far are 0.5mm too wide (ID/OD is right). It might be possible to shave off 0.5mm of the right side plate, and prime with aluminum primer. For the left spool bearing it might be possible to shave a bit off the plastic ratchet. But there's a possibility for failure here, so I'd rather get bearings with correct dimensions :)

Tight lines!
Paal

yep... i've found only that size too.... probably insert-able in left side spool bearing, meanwhile i don't now to right side plate.
I wan't to try but seems nobody selling it in japan.....  ???

paal

I asked around locally, but no one seems to stock them here in Norway either. I think ebay will be my best option....

Tight lines,
Paal

gone2fish

Hi
quick question (i hope lol)

I took my Andros out for work on the freespool.  I cant seem to line up the anti reverse dogs and the plate as a unit and get them back on.  Am I doing something wrong.  The dogs keep falling off when I try to slide them back on with the plate.  It seems hard to line up everything.  Any advice on how to get this done.  I believe it is the step in photo #63??

Thanks