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« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2017, 12:12:33 PM »

Tommy, you could try putting baking soda around the inside hole and then a drop of any cyanoacrylate (super glue), including Tac Glue.  The baking soda instantly becomes rock hard.  The hardened baking soda/super glue can be sanded, milled or shaped any way you like it.

The baking soda is also useful if you ever get too much cyanoacrylate on a project.  Dust it with baking soda and it will instantly dry.  Also great for filling cracks.  Its amazing stuff with lots of uses.
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Interesting.  Sounds like a good tip.  Makes me wonder why I used filler fir my model plane projects.
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« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2017, 01:30:47 PM »

Tommy, you could try putting baking soda around the inside hole and then a drop of any cyanoacrylate (super glue), including Tac Glue.  The baking soda instantly becomes rock hard.  The hardened baking soda/super glue can be sanded, milled or shaped any way you like it.

The baking soda is also useful if you ever get too much cyanoacrylate on a project.  Dust it with baking soda and it will instantly dry.  Also great for filling cracks.  Its amazing stuff with lots of uses.
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That's one big word!  Grin Thanks for the tip, Steve. I've never heard that before.  Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2017, 05:41:04 AM »

After hearing about the baking soda and how good the tac glue is I ordered up some of the tac glue when it comes in I may have to give it a shot gluing two carbon disc together using some baking soda I think two carbon ones with the hard glue baking soda in between could work.
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« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2017, 02:44:55 PM »

Good thread. Here's one thing I tried: took the original cardinal 4 washers sanded 'em down to a 0.5mm thickness and glued 0.5 mm new C-tex material onto either side of each of these old washers. When testing after reassembly I had alternating high and low friction drag at any given setting. So my sanding wasn't even enough and possibly the glue produced high/low spots. Back to the drawing board.

My thinking was mabey the old hard drag material would be stiff enough at 0.5mm and it was, but I might need better tooling to get an even surface on anything I fabricate in terms of the "meat" of the "drag sandwhich".

Gonna focus ona metal washer I can use without too much lap type grinding. Headin to the hardware store...
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« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2017, 09:41:43 PM »

Allright, the best option I could find for me in the hw store was metal gromets(in the pic), which I hammered flat. Od.-perfect, Id.-good for reaming out without too much work, the key thing for me: thickness=0.5mm, 0.45mm after lapping. Washer sandwhichs(my new word for it), aprox. 1.5mm each, after completion. The pic shows a completed, installed stack, a gromet, gromet processed into a washer and cut C-tex washer.
Testing: everything held up while pulling out drag all the way to almost lock-down. But, not smooth. Start-up was good. But there was a constant alternating-friction-pull-difference for the same 1/4 turn area of the spool. It is however, a big improvement over both the last incarnation I came up with, and the way it worked when I first received it. I don't think it'ed break off a drag pullin fish in it's present state.
Quite probably one 'er both metal washers aren't completely flat. So, I still gotta get a better source for a 0.5mm thick washer, Od=14.95mm, Id=6.36mm.
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« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2017, 05:13:41 AM »

Nice to see someone trying to experiment and improve upon the design. I haven't had much time lately to mess with reels have had a lot of cars to work on and now need to pull the transmission from my own truck. Before I mess with my cardinal 4 more I have a quick super I need to mess with to get ready for a louisiana coastal trip I'm going on in may not to mention get the trans rebuilt in my truck before it as well.  Undecided
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