alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial 1st project, pimping out my Senator
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« on: April 20, 2019, 08:59:03 PM »

 
I'm not doing much boat fishing at the minute, with my boat going through a complete rebuild, after finding the stringers and transom were completely
shot, which still has probably 12 months or more to go before completing her, re powering and getting back on the water again.
So when not working on the boat, my down time will be spent pimping up some of my Penn reels ( after all domestic duties from her indoors are done)
So, project 1
A 113h with a Tiburon frame, which I purchased some time ago for a steel. I very quickly opened it up when I got it, P/O said it was serviced and put away, so after a quick look, it went on the boat for really very little use since.
My apologies in advance for some very basic questions.
I would like to upgrade this reel and make it as strong as I can, It will be used off the boat, mainly for some hard fighting King fish and hopefully a decent Bluefin could be in the mix. I generally troll with a pair of international 30's and a 50, targeting that 100kg plus barrel, which I've not managed to score yet, but average sizes I guess are between 30-60kg, I'd luv to have a go with the senator with one of those.
Below is the reel in question, I can see that the drag has been upgraded, this was the order they were in when I removed it.
The clicker on the tail plate looks as if it has had a modification, with a circlip added in.
I'm not sure whether the internals are standard or not ??  I do have and fish with 3 or 4 other senators, but my skill level thus far, has only been to service them, then managing to get them back together and fishable again  Grin
I have a lot more reading of threads here to be done first, but it does seem that these reels can have the hell pimped out of them, i like that idea !

Col

 
 


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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2019, 10:03:05 PM »

The circlip clicker is the newer Penn replacement. The drag  washers are in the wrong order, but is the standard new style Penn. the order should be carbontex, keyed washer, carbontex, eared washer, carbontex, keyed washer, carbontex, eared washer, carbontex, keyed washer, Belville washer. You seem to be missing a keyed washer, but you seem to have a stainless aftermarket gear set.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2019, 10:19:30 PM »

Hi Dayone,   Thanks for that, I was going to look at upgrading to the 7+1 new drag set anyway, but good to know the correct order.
                 I  removed them and made sure I kept them in the order they were removed, interesting.
      I was wondering whether the gear set was Stainless, that's a bonus then if they are.
   I was just perusing through sites here to see what other upgrade parts were available still for the rest of the internals.
   I like the look of the double dog set up, but haven't been able to find that in stock yet.

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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2019, 11:48:10 PM »

You may want to consider a stainless steel gear sleeve and dog. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2019, 12:44:44 AM »

You may want to consider a stainless steel gear sleeve and dog.  

Will do thanks,  any recommendations here as to where to source parts needed..
ie, s/s gear sleeve and the double dog set up ?

Col
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2019, 01:01:31 AM »

Col, here's a dd bridge in stock for that reel: https://www.mysticparts.com/Custom/ProChallenger/3-113HPRO.aspx
here's a ss ecentric plate: https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Custom/11-113SS.aspx
and here's a ss sleeve: https://www.mysticparts.com/Custom/ProChallenger/98-320PRO.aspx
here's the link to all the options at mystic for the 4/0:  https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Penn113HL.aspx
hope this helps mate! Darin
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2019, 01:12:43 AM »

Col, here's a dd bridge in stock for that reel: https://www.mysticparts.com/Custom/ProChallenger/3-113HPRO.aspx
here's a ss ecentric plate: https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Custom/11-113SS.aspx
and here's a ss sleeve: https://www.mysticparts.com/Custom/ProChallenger/98-320PRO.aspx
here's the link to all the options at mystic for the 4/0:  https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Penn113HL.aspx
hope this helps mate! Darin

Your a champion Darin !!!  Thank you
 I flicked a couple of Emails off before and was just trolling thru Mystics parts as we speak.
 Those goodies look good.
Cheers Darin

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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2019, 10:31:41 PM »

OK, parts arrived, let's see if I can assemble these properly.
I've never been able to do a step by step with the photo's, I'll try my best.
How good are these double dog set up's !   Bling


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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2019, 10:37:58 PM »

Drag all assembled, it's the 7 + 1 drag set up, from mystic,
Got it all greased up with Cals drag grease, new washer underneath  S/S main gear, attached the  drag star gave her a few winds
to compact the new drags and squeeze out any excess grease.....


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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2019, 10:42:40 PM »

Liberally greased everything up as I assembled everything.
It seemed to go together without any major hiccups.


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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2019, 10:45:43 PM »

Added the Tiburon frame to the mix, a drop of corrosion x to the bearings and finished off the assembly.


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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2019, 10:49:45 PM »

Looks awesome, Col, way to go man!!!
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2019, 10:57:26 PM »

I must say now, I did not touch the bearings, I wanted too, but I wasn't sure on the method of removal or what tools I needed.
As previously mentioned, these reels won't get wet for at least 12 months, till the boat is finished off.  I have another 113h, ready to pimp up, which is completely standard, so that will be my first experience with bearings. ( probably arse about face way of doing things but ! )

A couple of questions on this one,
I feel I am getting an ever so slight rub when winding, a very faint rubbing sound. I will have to crack it open again to inspect, but it just feels like something is rubbing, whether it's the spool, not sure.
I also have a bit of lateral handle movement, which is probably noticed more with a larger handle. How much play should be in the handle shaft.

I liberally greased everything as I went along,  I fitted the new S/S gear sleeve on the bridge, fitted the pin, That being just a metal to metal fit, Is that a specific area where I should have really packed with grease ? I believe I didn't really go to any special effort before sliding it on, just grease on my tooth brush.
I'm really stoked with the end result, it's been fun, just got to do the bearings and try and find that rubbing sound,
Free spinning the spool, that noise isn't there, giving it a spin with the thumb is giving me about 17-20 seconds of spool spinning !



Sorry for all the questions !

Col
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2019, 03:12:04 AM »

Col, if you want to lighten up that reel get an aluminum spool. It will be a huge weight savings.      Rudy
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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2019, 03:35:58 AM »

Looks great!
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