Penn 250 Long Beach Bait Caster parts cross over?

speedwagon2 · January 23, 2015, 07:58:33 PM

Hello everybody,
I am considering doing a little hot rodding on a Penn Long Beach 250 Live Bait caster. I am looking for what parts will cross over. As a minimum it will need an up graded spool, drags, and sleeve if available. If there is an after market one piece frame that fits that would be great. Do any of the parts suppliers have spread sheet showing parts cross over? It looks like a small senator. This is a long term project; I am just gathering information so I can decide if this is a good candidate for upgrades.
Thanks for any help you have, Dave Babcock

txangler81 · January 24, 2015, 04:54:10 AM

Tiburon frames, any jigmaster aluminum spool will work, for drags either 6-60 ht100's from penn or carbontex from smoothdrag it will be the same ones for the squidder 140, and gear sleave I think is a 98-155 like the squidder as well I may be wrong on that though if it is Alan may have some or mysticparts.com shows to still have some of Alan's sleeves left. Some of the other fine folks on here will be able to tell you for certain on the gear sleeve. The only thing left to upgrade if you want is the handle if you want to there are a lot of aftermarket handles or you could get a larger stock handle. I like the look of the stock handles myself they have more personality.

"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"

txangler81 · January 24, 2015, 04:59:49 AM

and it should be a 259 not 250. 250 would be a surfmaster.

Keta · January 24, 2015, 05:33:37 AM

Quote from: txangler81 on January 24, 2015, 04:59:49 AM
and it should be a 259 not 250. 250 would be a surfmaster.

And another good platform to tinker with.

txangler81 · January 24, 2015, 06:18:12 AM

I would enjoy adding one to my collection some day

Keta · January 24, 2015, 06:30:23 AM

I have a stock and a narrow 250 Surfmaster.

txangler81 · January 24, 2015, 06:41:51 AM

from his description I think he actually has a 259

Keta · January 24, 2015, 07:06:08 AM

Yup.

Alto Mare · January 24, 2015, 10:44:48 AM

I believe he knows what he has, maybe he'll let us know at some point

Bryan Young · January 24, 2015, 04:40:55 PM

Dave,

Have you seen this?

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12752.0

and

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=9874.0

I have 3 Penn 259s and one of the bridge plates allows me to use a Jigmaster gear sleeve. 2 of them did not. The gear sleeve shaft on 2 of the bridge plates had a smaller diameter than the first one that I did in my narrowed 259.

Good luck and don't hesitate to ask.

Bryan

Keta · January 24, 2015, 04:46:21 PM

I think I've run into early 60 bridge plates with the smaller shaft too.

speedwagon2 · January 29, 2015, 03:49:50 PM

Hi guys,
Sorry for the slow response, the day job gets in the way. You are correct this reel is a 259 Long Beach bait caster. It was mislabled on E bay. It is in great condition. it measures 2 and 7/16" width. The gearing is about 3.25 turns to one. The spool appears to be a chromed material of some sort. The finish really good, very little corrosion. This will be my first penn project. I am going to plan this out and build it later this year. I have not opened it up yet. Got to finish the newell projects for this years fishing. If possible, I want to build it to 40lb braid and fish for YTs and schoolie tuna. What I use it for will depend on what upgrade parts are available. The gearing is faster then I expected, but not as fast as I like.
1. Will any of the Tiburon or Accurate frames work at the stock width or a little narrower? I like the 1/0 senator/322 width but could live with 2 and 7/16".
2. If there are no one piece frames available, Will any of the Newell base and spacers fit? or possibly some after market SS posts?
It appears that I have some choices on brakes. I would like an honest 10-12 lbs of drag for YTs and small tuna. My Newells have a lot more, but I seldom need it. I cranked the drag down on my 322 for only one fish last year, which was a 33lb yellow fin with a lot of attitude.
Thanks for all the info, Dave Babcock(AKA Speedwagon II)

Bryan Young · January 29, 2015, 05:32:38 PM

Quote from: speedwagon2 on January 29, 2015, 03:49:50 PM
Hi guys,
Sorry for the slow response, the day job gets in the way. You are correct this reel is a 259 Long Beach bait caster. It was mislabled on E bay. It is in great condition. it measures 2 and 7/16" width. The gearing is about 3.25 turns to one. The spool appears to be a chromed material of some sort. The finish really good, very little corrosion. This will be my first penn project. I am going to plan this out and build it later this year. I have not opened it up yet. Got to finish the newell projects for this years fishing. If possible, I want to build it to 40lb braid and fish for YTs and schoolie tuna. What I use it for will depend on what upgrade parts are available. The gearing is faster then I expected, but not as fast as I like.
1. Will any of the Tiburon or Accurate frames work at the stock width or a little narrower? I like the 1/0 senator/322 width but could live with 2 and 7/16".
2. If there are no one piece frames available, Will any of the Newell base and spacers fit? or possibly some after market SS posts?
It appears that I have some choices on brakes. I would like an honest 10-12 lbs of drag for YTs and small tuna. My Newells have a lot more, but I seldom need it. I cranked the drag down on my 322 for only one fish last year, which was a 33lb yellow fin with a lot of attitude.
Thanks for all the info, Dave Babcock(AKA Speedwagon II)

Hi Dave,

I believe that any Tib or Accurate frame for the jigmaster will work.

Hmm, that reminds me...I think I will look to build a 99 width 259 as well.

Ah, I need one more 259 so I can complete my set. Narrow. 99 width. Normal.

Shark Hunter · January 29, 2015, 05:47:46 PM

Tiburon P20 is what you need. It fits the 259, the Jigmaster 500 and 505.

foakes · January 29, 2015, 06:11:38 PM

Hey, Dustin (txangler81) --

Glad to see your contributions and knowledge!

It is great for each of us to share our increased tackle knowledge and expertise with new and old alike.

Nice to see members grow and learn -- becoming experts.

That is only one aspect of what makes this site the best in the world for the repairs/upgrades/service -- we do with reels.

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And everyone has fun while doing these things. Don't take everything too seriously -- enjoy!

Best,

Fred