113h/114h senator - short version

Shark Hunter · March 29, 2015, 06:59:53 PM

Welcome jj,
All the senators basically use the same parts. If your 113's are the black ones. The parts will still be the same. Just your drag stack will probably use 3 instead of a 5 stack.
Browse the Senator Section and go for it!

alantani · March 29, 2015, 08:33:09 PM

yeah, but if you can fix this, you can fix anything!!!!

Long Enuff · February 09, 2016, 06:32:34 PM

Thanks to all of you, I am hooked!

thorhammer · February 09, 2016, 06:37:47 PM

Yes, it was cheaper before I found this site....

sdlehr · February 09, 2016, 07:06:58 PM

Quote from: thorhammer on February 09, 2016, 06:37:47 PM
Yes, it was cheaper before I found this site....

$:-\$

bobka2 · February 10, 2016, 03:09:33 AM

Once I had disposable income, then I decided I needed to cast 500'. This lead to a bunch of abu 6500s. Thanks to Alan's tutorials I can rebuild one of those quit fast. A friend retired, he bought a boat, he needed a grandchild wrangler for Bouy 10 season who could handle the boat just in case, so here I am, just rebuilt a Long Beach I bought abused 25 years ago. and a MXJ6 I got off ebay, Jim likes to drive his boat around, albacore, I figure that a 113 or 114 would be ideal for trolling for them. Between fuel, bait, my gun habit and my desire for used reels to rebuild I may well have to get a job, I thought I was done with that, forever,

anglingarchitect · March 19, 2016, 07:51:26 PM

Know what you mean still working at 65, but can't afford to be unemployed with all my hobbies/lifestyle expenses.

Daegu · May 03, 2016, 01:12:22 PM

Thanks for the directions. They were easy to follow.

I did, however, have one issue once I completed the last step. I went to function test it and noticed that it was freespooling just fine, but when I flipped the lever to retrieve, it kept freespooling. Frustrated, I took it apart at least three more times to figure out what the heck I was doing wrong. Before getting so frustrated that I did something stupid like crossthreading something, I went off to the pub and had a couple pints and went to bed.

The next morning, I realized that I had the drag all the way out.

bobka2 · May 04, 2016, 02:10:04 AM

These things happen.

Gman_WC · May 29, 2016, 12:51:58 AM

I'm trying to upgrade a used - new to me 113h narrow in a Tiburon frame and it's giving me fits. I've taken it apart 20 times now.
and can't get all of the washers to fit inside the sleeve and finally got out my caliper out.
I'm going Gear: Carbon-ssKey-Carbon-ssEar-Carbon-ssKey-Carbon-ssEar-Carbon-ssKey
My question is should all of the SS washers be the same thickness?
I'm getting
Keyed = .040
Eared = .0345
I bought SS Gear Kit with sleeve last year this time and just making the discovery now!

I should have know it was bad news when I bought it at a garage sale with the pink pro gear handle on it that didn't fit.
-gary

RowdyW · May 29, 2016, 01:33:29 AM

The top CF washer can be partially above the gear. The top keyed washer will be above the gear. This is all normal. Install the coned washer, spacer sleeve, bevel washer, & star. Screw it all down snug. then remove the bevel washer & star wheel. Place a O ring or rubber band above the sleeve to keep everything compressed while you assemble it into the reel. After you tighten down the bridge in the plate you can remove the band or O ring & finish assembly. Rudy

Gman_WC · May 29, 2016, 04:51:26 PM

Got it. Happy B-Day to me!
New ss guts, Cal's greased carbon drags, Sal's arm, and last but not least... the oversized handle.
Backing it today and topping off with some 20# for salmon trolling the Marin coast.
Weird year, lot's of big fish stacked up at Dux already.

-g

Rancanfish · May 29, 2016, 07:26:36 PM

Nice job on that reel. I was thinking my narrow 113 would be great for salmon, too. Because I drag balls. I haven't heard about stacked big ones...where you getting this info?

I'm south of you 20 minutes. Just sayin'.

Gman_WC · June 04, 2016, 04:01:55 PM

This year started out with salmon on the coast from the towers back to the Pt Reyes lighthouse.
It's a late in the year pattern. It started out great, now it appears to be scratch. One day on a few days off.
It was a ghost town Tuesday. No one, not even the stick boats were catching much if anything.
Rock fish was a bust also, but we were not at the islands. But is was a flat calm day with whales, sun fish, and that
dam harbour seal that got our only hooked salmon.
-g

Eddie K · March 18, 2017, 11:15:16 PM

I just received a couple of Penn 113HLW's off of eBay. One has an AccuFrame and it has excessive side to side spool play. The bearing is bottomed out, and the spool is not original to the reel. The reel dates back into the '70's but has an aluminum Penn spool instead of the chromed over brass Penn spool. This was just a cursory inspection as I haven't broken them down to a pile of parts yet. I am wondering if I may have to shim the bearings. Problem number two is the eccentric isn't disengaging all of the way. If you move the lever forward just a little, and then back, it will then completely disengage. I'm thinking that it may have something wrong with the eccentric jack. I'm asking if anyone might have any suggestions on things that I may not have thought of.