What is your favorite braided line color?

[Irish Jigger]

I am interested in Diameter/Breaking strain of Braids as I have yet to find the manufacturers figures to be correct.  EG Dyneema  (European and Chinese) 40lb Bs=0.018"(0.46mm) Dia and 50lb Bs =0.020"(0.51mm) Dia. which both exceed the manufacturers stated figures.  I am interested as the Diameter is important when anchored in very deep water with  a 4Kt current running.

[Black Pearl]

Line data.

[Black Pearl]

Ok, the 80# solid braided line in hi-vis yellow color will be here tomorrow. I will be sending out to some of you captains for testing.

[Killerbug]

I've also heard that red does dissapear under water.

So red or white.

This is an example how different color spectrums looses their visibility under water. 



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[Strewth]

I am interested in Diameter/Breaking strain of Braids as I have yet to find the manufacturers figures to be correct.  EG Dyneema  (European and Chinese) 40lb Bs=0.018"(0.46mm) Dia and 50lb Bs =0.020"(0.51mm) Dia. which both exceed the manufacturers stated figures.  I am interested as the Diameter is important when anchored in very deep water with  a 4Kt current running.

Check out http://www.paulusjustfishing.com/4linetesting.htm

Answers your question for most braids that have been made. All his tests are done to Australian line testing standards.

[Irish Jigger]

Have you considered having your line tested by this guy who appears to be extremely professional?

http://www.paulusjustfishing.com/

He's a great guy Strewth and highly respected.   He has the proper equipment to test braids and publish results. Cant see how a "Captain" or an individual can test a piece of 80lb braid by without having the facilities to do so.

[Killerbug]

Letting just one on two guides test a product will not lead to any usable results.  You could compare it with a car manufacturer, that handle their newest
racecar over to the local mechanics for a test drive, and call it product testing.  

What you normally do, is a combination of laborious wear tests, and handling the product out to various pro staff members for at least one season.

The biggest problem with braids are (abrasion) wear resistance, and that cannot be tested by a captain, even if he jigs or trolls with it from now to hell freezes over.  

[Black Pearl]

Have you considered having your line tested by this guy who appears to be extremely professional?

http://www.paulusjustfishing.com/

He's a great guy Strewth and highly respected.   He has the proper equipment to test braids and publish results. Cant see how a "Captain" or an individual can test a piece of 80lb braid by without having the facilities to do so.

To answer your comment is that we do/did have a lab facility testing on the material and chemical. The lab testing report came back was good and the product was stabled. The second step would be put the product in the hand of the users. A lot of people we have contacted agree with that. If you don't like our way to put the product in the hand of a "Captain" or an individual for some more testing, I am sorry that it is not your cup of tea. That is a saying "Damn if I do, and Damn if I don't". We can't make everybody happy....

[broadway]

Hey Killerbug,

     Thanks for the great demonstration of color visibility.  Red is definitely the first to go, but what surprised me most was the oranges remained strong and relatively vibrant.  I thought they would be next because they are next to red on the color wheel... I guess that was incorrect!  Nice way to prove a point
Dom

[Killerbug]

Have you considered having your line tested by this guy who appears to be extremely professional?

http://www.paulusjustfishing.com/

He's a great guy Strewth and highly respected.   He has the proper equipment to test braids and publish results. Cant see how a "Captain" or an individual can test a piece of 80lb braid by without having the facilities to do so.

To answer your comment is that we do/did have a lab facility testing on the material and chemical. The lab testing report came back was good and the product was stabled. The second step would be put the product in the hand of the users. A lot of people we have contacted agree with that. If you don't like our way to put the product in the hand of a "Captain" or an individual for some more testing, I am sorry that it is not your cup of tea. That is a saying "Damn if I do, and Damn if I don't". We can't make everybody happy....

Cheer up dude, I am a prostaffer myself for the US company Reactionstrike, we do tons of testing and product evaluations to ensure that our products rock!.  You should definitely build up a pro staff, like that you are much more in control of the whole evaluation process. 

[Killerbug]

Hey Killerbug,

     Thanks for the great demonstration of color visibility.  Red is definitely the first to go, but what surprised me most was the oranges remained strong and relatively vibrant.  I thought they would be next because they are next to red on the color wheel... I guess that was incorrect!  Nice way to prove a point
Dom

Thanks, the pictures are done by a German engineer friend of mine, who also catches some monster fish. But beware that some of colours are fluorescent, that won't show on photos. Also orange has a great deal of yellow in it, so that's probably why, it shows well.



I think Red is a great colour for a sea fishing line, highly visible at the surface but not in depth.

[Black Pearl]

Have you considered having your line tested by this guy who appears to be extremely professional?

http://www.paulusjustfishing.com/

He's a great guy Strewth and highly respected.   He has the proper equipment to test braids and publish results. Cant see how a "Captain" or an individual can test a piece of 80lb braid by without having the facilities to do so.

To answer your comment is that we do/did have a lab facility testing on the material and chemical. The lab testing report came back was good and the product was stabled. The second step would be put the product in the hand of the users. A lot of people we have contacted agree with that. If you don't like our way to put the product in the hand of a "Captain" or an individual for some more testing, I am sorry that it is not your cup of tea. That is a saying "Damn if I do, and Damn if I don't". We can't make everybody happy....

Cheer up dude, I am a prostaffer myself for the US company Reactionstrike, we do tons of testing and product evaluations to ensure that our products rock!.  You should definitely build up a pro staff, like that you are much more in control of the whole evaluation process. 

Don't take it to the wrong way, Killerbug. That comment I made was directed to the other member. We are in the process to setup a prostaff team in NC to work on the product testing in the field. Your comment is very helpful to us.

[wallacewt]

hi killerbug.
when it comes to testing braid you and i are on different planets.abrasion testing dont count.every fisherman knows that it is very poor around piers,rocks,and any other sharp objects.so connect a leader of mono or fluoro and problem solved.does it cast well,smooth or fluffy,retain water,ties well,1/3 breaking strain,not so important,most manufactures allow 25% extra.ME, i know after 1 session if it suits me.i cant speak for anybody else if they like it or not.im just interested in a fishing situation and most tests can be done at home prior to fishing.colour dont count,use a bit of fluoro.cheers.

[Killerbug]

Sure, but I still think abrasion resistance is an important feature of any braid.  Even if you use a shock leader, you can still get caught up in the the keel(or engine) with certain fish species.  But of course it depends on what kind of fishing you do.

[alantani]

i got a sample from alan and i gotta say, it is REALLY smooth.  it's a beautiful line.  just silky smooth.  alan is going to put together some samplers for me.  seriously, guys, it is a very nice looking/feeling product.  can't wait to get it on a reel!